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  • JAB5239
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    McGuigan talks about Valero

    Any opinions on this article?



    Why Edwin Valero must quit ring for the sake of boxing


    By Barry Mcguigan 13/02/2010


    Edwin Valero is now a champion in recess, as the WBC call it, which means his lightweight world title is up for grabs.

    The idea is to give Valero time for the gash on his head - sustained against Antonio DeMarco last week - to heal and for him to test the waters at light-welterweight.

    I wonder if the real issue is being overlooked here. Texas remains the only state in the United States in which he can fight.

    That is no accident.

    Reports of the brain scan from New York State came as a shock when I learned the findings.

    Valero suffered a fractured skull and a blood clot on the brain after falling off a motor cycle in 2001. He was not wearing a helmet.

    He had an operation to repair the damage and was declared fit to box by the Venezuela authorities.

    It was not until the New York State scan that the extent of his injuries were revealed. The fact that he had a traumatic brain injury, a tear inside the cranium in the most vulnerable part of the brain, means he should never box again in my view. That is a devastating conclusion to reach for such a talented fighter but not as desperate as the consequences might be of fighting on.

    He is a phenomenal fighter, one I tipped for greatness during his battle for the right to fight in the United States.

    But the bottom line is I don't believe boxing can take the risk knowing what we know now.

    The ramifications of allowing a boxer who has had a subdural haematoma into the ring could be disastrous.

    I accept that Valero, and Marco Antonio Barrera, have fought on without obvious consequences following operations to drain blood from the brain.

    But that is not to say there won't be any. The risk is just too great, particularly in championship bouts.

    There are also the long-term effects to consider. Brain injuries sometimes take a while to play out leading to dementia or some impaired brain function much later. Valero is a knockout artist. He goes to war in the ring, which is the attraction of him.

    But it is a style that leaves him vulnerable in elite class. From a technical point of view, Valero fights recklessly. Yes, he was more measured against DeMarco last week, but could he hold himself back against Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather? Championship bouts in Las Vegas have a way of hitting the adrenalin button. As it is, Valero throws shots like he is looking over a fence with his head stuck up in the air.

    That is OK when the opponent is so scared by his reputation that he is already running away. And no wonder. Valero has ko'd each of his 27 opponents.

    But against a Pacquiao or a Mayweather, Valero would get the opposite response. Both exploit any technical vulnerabilities.

    A bout against either, or a Juan Manuel Marquez for that matter, would be dangerous for Valero.

    It is not simply about him. What if he were to suffer a fatal injury in the ring? Subdural haematomas are the most common cause of boxing deaths.

    I know what it is like to suffer the effects of a death in the ring.

    There is not a day goes by when I don't think of Young Ali. No fighter should have to go through that.

    The pressure for Valero to fight in Las Vegas will increase as he goes through the gears. For the sake of boxing and Valero himself, the answer should still be no.
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    He might have a point, Valero has a part of skull and brains missing.

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    • JAB5239
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      #3
      Originally posted by SpinDoctor
      He might have a point, Valero has a part of skull and brains missing.
      I think he makes a good point. Boxing would be crucified if something were to happen to Valero.

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      • mookiep
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        Originally posted by JAB5239
        I think he makes a good point. Boxing would be crucified if something were to happen to Valero.
        that would be his decision though. He has a family to feed. This might be the only way he has to feed him. Personally, Id rather die in the ring, he probably feels this way. If he doesnt then its cause he has no other way to make a living. Either way, its his choice.

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        • catalinul
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          McGuigan does have a point.Valeo could drop dead in the ring at any time.

          That being said he and anyone else knows the risk of getting in the ring and fighting.

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          • TheKza
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            DAMN! i didn't even know the extent of his injuries. Mcguigan is a 100% right but something tells me valero is still going to get in the ring and go to war

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            • Clegg
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              #7
              There used to be a UK TV show called Ringside, where former boxers and commentators would sit and discuss/show clips of the weekly events and sometimes older fights as well, and McGuigan was always the guy with the most interesting contributions. Since then I've always tried to read/watch his stuff and I think he talks a lot of sense.

              Obviously having had an opponent that died because of their fight, and having been ringside for fights such as Eubank-Watson II, I'm not surprised that he is against fighters like Valero being allowed to continue.

              I think it's a hard one to call. Some head injuries can seem minor and then the person can end up dead a few hours later. Others can look terrible but lead to a full recovery soon after.

              There are boxers who have been banned due to brain scans but then been perfectly fine in future bouts abroad, even when taking a lot of punches (such as Wayne McCullough).

              I can't claim to fully understand the full implications of Valero's injury, but I think the US have done the right thing. I remember reading a few articles about the Joe Mesi situation before and thinking it was crazy that he was choosing to continue. I don't know if Valero feels 100% all of the time, but if he doesn't then he's also taking a risk that he shouldn't be allowed to take.

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              • elgaringo
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                I never knew it was this bad. After hearing this I dont know what to think anymore, a part of me thinks it should be his choice like mookiep but Im thinking thats the selfish part of me that wants to see Valero break thro on the elite scene and be in some great and violent fights. But another part of me thinks it should be taken out of his hands for the sake of boxing and his own health and life. Which in my mind is worth more than any amount of cash!

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                • gingeralbino
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                  i think it should depend on what the experts say, im no medical expert, but if the new york doctors have declared him unfit to box, then that should be enough to at the very least have him retested in Texas, Mexico and Venezuela.

                  There is also the political reasons for him not getting licensed, as he is a supporter of Hugo Chavez who is no friend of the american govt, so maybe he should get tested in Britain or Germany (or somewhere reputable) and see what they say.

                  Would be a shame if Valero couldnt fight again. It would be a much bigger shame if he died in the ring though.

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                  • elgaringo
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gingeralbino
                    i think it should depend on what the experts say, im no medical expert, but if the new york doctors have declared him unfit to box, then that should be enough to at the very least have him retested in Texas, Mexico and Venezuela.

                    There is also the political reasons for him not getting licensed, as he is a supporter of Hugo Chavez who is no friend of the american govt, so maybe he should get tested in Britain or Germany (or somewhere reputable) and see what they say.

                    Would be a shame if Valero couldnt fight again. It would be a much bigger shame if he died in the ring though.
                    You make a good point

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