Did Roy Jones duck anyone at SMW?: seperating fact from fiction

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    #51
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    I do believe that DM travelled to the US to drum up some interest. He was shamelessly ignored by Jones (and possibly HBO).
    Being biased is one thing. Making up stories is another.

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      #52
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Being biased is one thing. Making up stories is another.
      Are you saying I'm making things up???

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        #53
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Are you saying I'm making things up???
        Are you pretending you're not? On what basis can you say that Jones and HBO shamelessly ducked Dariusz?

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          #54
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Are you pretending you're not? On what basis can you say that Jones and HBO shamelessly ducked Dariusz?
          I did say ignored. And my basis is this:

          Originally posted by LondonRingRules
          ** At 175, DM is superior by record. He was the first to lift the titles off of Hill and fought a lot of the same guys Roy did with at least as good of success as Roy.

          I like to point to the Harmon/Hall/Griffin fights when both were considered still at peak. DM whacks out Harmon a little earlier than Roy did, and got to Hall twice around the same time as Roy, and got to Griffin a little later, but never dropping a bout to Montell, an indication of the approximate danger each represented to the other.

          DM padded record with early WBO title matches, but he's also got some bigger names aside from the overlap like getting to Hill 1st coming off his Maske win and a Thradzi coming off wins over Toney and Scully.

          I meant to also include Rocchigiana. He wasn't the fighter he was, but he's a name in the books.

          DM was considered the "lineal" champ, whatever that means and traveled to Roy's hometown to drum up the match, but Roy and HBO pretty much ignored him. Odd since he was simultaneously coming up on tying Rocky's 49-0 record and Joe's 25-0 title defense record, both numerically superior to Roy's LH record at the time.

          Seeing as how the Germans could have easily have arranged the split loss to Gonzalez to be a split win if they were as dishonest as is claimed, Roy really did lose out on a huge opportunity because of his drunken ego that HBO enabled.

          Of course the usual dummies are gonna interpret this as me claiming DM is the better fighter, but that's the price they pay for wearing Roy's used jock straps as nose masks. He was the better LH by record and after a period of he and Roy ignoring each other, DM made the moves to make the fight happen.

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            #55
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson
            I did say ignored. And my basis is this:
            So you have no basis?

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              #56
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              So you have no basis?
              You can't read?? Get out of here.

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                #57
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                You can't read?? Get out of here.
                I read it all. And he is full of **** too.

                Square Ring and Universum never reached an agreement for a bout. Universum went out of their way to make it seem like Jones was avoiding a fight. HBO invited the two parties to sit down and they couldn't get Klaus Peter-Kohl to soften his money stance NOR (in spite of what they told the press) did they have ANY interest in fighting Jones in the US. This is shamelessly ignored? How about YOU get out of here?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  I read it all. And he is full of **** too.

                  Square Ring and Universum never reached an agreement for a bout. Universum went out of their way to make it seem like Jones was avoiding a fight. HBO invited the two parties to sit down and they couldn't get Klaus Peter-Kohl to soften his money stance NOR (in spite of what they told the press) did they have ANY interest in fighting Jones in the US. This is shamelessly ignored? How about YOU get out of here?
                  He said that DM travelled to the US to drum up interest and that he was ignored by Jones and HBO. What part of that is 'full of ****'? It sounds like factual info to me.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    He said that DM travelled to the US to drum up interest and that he was ignored by Jones and HBO. What part of that is 'full of ****'? It sounds like factual info to me.
                    Of course it does. Especially the ignored by Jones and HBO. Kohl's meeting with the HBO brass and Square Ring were reported on daily by the NY Daily News.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Of course it does. Especially the ignored by Jones and HBO. Kohl's meeting with the HBO brass and Square Ring were reported on daily by the NY Daily News.
                      And what did they say?

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