Did Roy Jones duck anyone at SMW?: seperating fact from fiction

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  • General Zod
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    Did Roy Jones duck anyone at SMW?: seperating fact from fiction

    There was a vid up on youtube once featuring the Q and A that Jones did before the Brannon fight, if anyone knows where I can download it it would be appreciated.

    Frankie Liles:
    That fight couldn’t be made at the time because Don King had exclusive rights to Liles and from 1991 through 1998 King wasn’t involved in a single HBO telecast and had exclusive control over Showtime championship boxing. That particular cold war didn’t end until HBO and King formed a truce in 1999 so they could put together the De La Hoya-Trinidad and Lewis-Holyfield mega-fights
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    Nigel Benn:
    Recognising that independence was the most important thing implanted in Jones by his father, the Levins came in on the strict understanding that no promoter would be given options of future contests. Thus the impasse that exists between Jones and Benn, who is under contract to Frank Warren and Don King. "I'll fight Benn any time," Jones said last year when meeting British boxing writers in Atlantic City shortly before Lennox Lewis defeated Tommy Morrison. "Tell me where he is and I'll go and see him. If Benn wants this fight then he's got to understand that I won't sign away anything to the people who promote him. It's that simple."
    Ken Jones on the IBF super-featherweight champion, considered by many to be the best fighter pound-for-pound in the world, who is considering a career in basketball


    Chris Eubank:
    Eubank called out Roy around 1996
    http://www.east side boxing.com/news.php?p=4223&more=1
    Before Eubank met Collins, there was speculation about multi-million pound fights against his former rival, Nigel Benn, and the current sensation of American boxing, Roy Jones, but since losing to Collins both those lucrative avenues dried up.
    "Eubank is no good to me because he has now lost twice," said Jones recently.



    Honorable Mentions:
    Bernard Hopkins:
    Now, with respect to Hopkins, Roy did make a good faith effort in trying to make that fight happen. It didn't happen I guess because Bernard's number was too high.


    HOPKINS:People want to me to go up to 190 pounds to fight "superman" and be basically a sacrificial lamb
    http://www.east side boxing.com/news.php?p=211&more=1

    Julian Jackson:
    Quick enough to repel a concerted attack by promoter Don King. King approached Jones last fall, seeking an opponent for Julian Jackson, a King client (and the WBC middleweight champion until he was knocked out by Gerald McClellan on May .

    " King wanted to get me to commit to a deal, but I couldn't figure out what I was getting paid, or if I was getting paid. Nothing," says Jones. "He just goes on and on until you don't know where you are. He tries to leave everything scrambled and to get you to commit to a scrambled agreement. I told King, 'No, thanks.' I didn't need to beat Julian Jackson to prove how good I can be."
    I think that covers everyone, lol
    Last edited by General Zod; 02-21-2010, 07:03 AM.
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    RJJ wasn't scared of anyone tbh, he knew how talented he was but he had a HUGE ego.

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      I've made a complete rundown of the fighters Jones didn't fight at SMW. The post is below:

      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      I did a little research on Roy Jones Jr. and the opposition he fought as a SMW.

      Jones was in essense fighting in the 168 lb division from 1993 until 1996.

      Keys:

      RED = Eventually fought them or fought them already
      BLUE = Fought them in that year.

      The year end rankings of 1992 looked like this:

      1: Michael Nunn
      2: Iran Barkley
      3: Chris Eubank
      4: Victor Cordoba
      5: Nigel Benn
      6: Tim Littles
      7: Darrin Van Horn
      8: Tony Thornton
      9: Frankie Liles
      10: Frank Nicotra

      He fought Thornton in 1995.

      1993:

      1: James Toney
      2: Michael Nunn
      3: Chris Eubank
      4: Nigel Benn
      5: Tim Littles
      6: Darrin Van Horn
      7: Frankie Liles
      8: Tony Thornton
      9: Antoine Byrd
      10: Vincenzo Nardiello


      1994: Jones enters the list at no. 1 after beating Toney.

      1: Roy Jones Jr.
      2: Nigel Benn
      3: Chris Eubank
      4: Frankie Liles
      5: Vinny Pazienza
      6: Tim Littles
      7: Michael Nunn
      8: Ray Close
      9: Graciano Rocchigiani
      10: Antoine Byrd


      1995:

      1: Roy Jones Jr.
      2: Nigel Benn
      3: Steve Collins
      4: Frankie Liles
      5: Tim Littles
      6: Vinny Pazienza
      7: Bryant Brannon
      8: Henry Wharton
      9: Michael Nunn
      10: Ray Close


      1996:

      1: Roy Jones Jr.
      2: Frankie Liles
      3: Steve Collins
      4: Vinny Pazienza
      5: Robin Reid
      6: Henry Wharton
      7: Michael Nunn
      8: Vincenzo Nardiello
      9: Joseph Kiwanuka
      10: Thulani Malinga

      At the end of 1996 Jones had moved up.

      So Jones work after 4 years at 168 lb consist of an excellent win over Toney and not much else:

      Toney
      Thornton
      Pazienza (LOL)
      Byrd
      Brannon

      Jones never fought a top 3 opponent after Toney. He had 6 fights at 168 after beating him. Of those fights he beat an unranked Thornton, a suspected juiced lightweight in Pazienza, a past it Byrd, a never was in Sosa, a young non-threat in Lucas and a veteran of 16 fights in Brannon.


      So the deserving fighters Jones didn't fight (or ducked as it's called on NSB) is these guys:

      Nunn
      Benn
      Eubank
      Collins
      Barkley
      Cordoba
      Littles
      Van Horn
      Liles
      Nardiello
      Close
      Rocchigianni
      Nicotra



      Let's face it. A Nunn or a Benn or a Eubank or a Liles or even a Collins would have been real nice.

      (I hope I didn't miss anyone )

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      • General Zod
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        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        I've made a complete rundown of the fighters Jones didn't fight at SMW. The post is below:
        But your list doesnt take into acccount the surrounding politics, but I do agree his title defences could of been better

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            Originally posted by TheGoossen
            But your list doesnt take into acccount the surrounding politics, but I do agree his title defences could of been better
            Oh no. It's just objective facts. Going through every fighter and the reasons why a Jones fight didn't materialize is impossible for various reasons. Still my list speaks for itself.

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                Benn was pretty much the #2 guy behind Roy at 168 for a good few years. Not fighting him was a joke.

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