it is my conclusion that Floyd doesnt really want to fight Pac

[Maidana vs Rios]

"Why would we need all that? We didn't do that the first time," Jones said of the lack of testing. "If he is doing something because he's 45 years old, I'm still going to beat him. He could have been doing it the first time. Who knows? I'm still going to beat him so it doesn't matter to me. That's how much better than him I think I am." - Roy Jones, Jr., February 2010

[ModernTalking]

The ducking process has already started again.

[JAB5239]

Your even wrong in fact ,,, Floyd didnt demand it he has no right to demand it , he asked for it and has every right to ask for it and Pac said no , like I said Pac was asked and found wanting , lets see where the consequences fall .

Ok, so he asked for it. When he didn't get what he asked for the way he wanted it (something he had no right to ask for to begin with) and would not compromise the fight imploded. He tried to force Pac to do something and it backfired because Floyd wasn't calling the shots.

If Pac beats Clottey and retires, and Floyd can't find another meaningful fight before he retires, Manny will go down in history as the greater fighter. That is where the consequences will fall.

By the way, nice of you to dodge the rest of my post. No answers?

[Reloaded]

Ok, so he asked for it. When he didn't get what he asked for the way he wanted it (something he had no right to ask for to begin with) and would not compromise the fight imploded. He tried to force Pac to do something and it backfired because Floyd wasn't calling the shots.

If Pac beats Clottey and retires, and Floyd can't find another meaningful fight before he retires, Manny will go down in history as the greater fighter. That is where the consequences will fall.

By the way, nice of you to dodge the rest of my post. No answers?

Sorry bud if you think Floyd has no right to ask for an accurate test to prove Manny is clean before fighting him then we really have nothing more to say because that is ground floor and I believe every fighter in the world has a right to ask for better testing of his opponent , on one hand you chastise Floyd for asking and on the other pat Pac on the back for walking away from a 25 mill blood test that any other fighter would have said no problems , I cant fathom your logic above fan level , I wouldnt care if this was some other fighter and not Floyd I would still feel the same I applaud AA for having it in all his contracts and you will see Floyd do the same with all his future opponents , Pac ducked a simple test which makes him look like he is cheating and ducking being caught or being stopped from using PEDS against Floyd either way its a duck on Pacs behalf ,,,,, by the way what about the Floyds 10 mill weight clause when Clottey has been over 147 on 11 occasions with no weight penalty , Manny is not very consistent in his dealings is he .

[JAB5239]

Sorry bud if you think Floyd has no right to ask for an accurate test to prove Manny is clean before fighting him then we really have nothing more to say because that is ground floor and I believe every fighter in the world has a right to ask for better testing of his opponent , on one hand you chastise Floyd for asking and on the other pat Pac on the back for walking away from a 25 mill blood test that any other fighter would have said no problems ,

My problem is Floyd trying to control everything. As I said, he isn't in the drivers seat. Yeah he can ask. But don't get all pompous when you don't get your way. If there were grounds for it I could understand. But Fl;oyd and his family have taken it upon themselves to slander Pac.

There is nothing in the NSAC rules about outside testing. For 40 fights this never bothered Floyd. so if Floyd has the right to ask for this testing, than Pac has just as much a right to refuse. Pac is following the rules. Floyd is trying to make up his own.

I cant fathom your logic above fan level , I wouldnt care if this was some other fighter and not Floyd I would still feel the same I applaud AA for having it in all his contracts and you will see Floyd do the same with all his future opponents , Pac ducked a simple test which makes him look like he is cheating and ducking being caught or being stopped from using PEDS against Floyd either way its a duck on Pacs behalf

Just like Floyd I don't see you criticizing or calling for WADA testing on other fighters. You applaud the ones doing it but could care less about the rest. Its disingenuous. Pac never ducked a test. Never broke a rule. He just didn't give in to some prima donna's demands that came after being unfairly slandered. Floyd said he could whoop that ass and than found a way out of the fight.

,,,,, by the way what about the Floyds 10 mill weight clause when Clottey has been over 147 on 11 occasions with no weight penalty , Manny is not very consistent in his dealings is he .

Clottey isn't making another fighter come up 2 weight classes to fight him either, is he?

By the way, you STILL haven't answered those questions. Why isn't Floyd petitioning all the promoters, commissions and boxing organizations to change the testing procedure? Why isn't he outraged there will be no WADA testing for Jones-Hopkins? How the hell can he be the MLK and Malcom X of boxing when the only thing he cares about is himself?

[iHateThePacMan]

amen. Hate it or love it most people believe this, the only ones that won't are the sad *****s whos whining alot in this *****s. licking every floyd's nuts they could find, Kinda pathetic IMO, They can't talk about anything else than floyd, bradley or pwill.

[hugh grant]

LOL , you say all Floyd had to do was not ask for a guarantee that Pac is clean from PEDS while he fights him , your mentality is pure fanboy in the front lobe and hater in the rear cortex , how the *** are you gunna see reality in anything LOL , FLOYD HAS EVERY RIGHT IN THE WORLD TO ASK FOR THIS TEST , PAC HAD AN OBLIGATION TO SHOW THE WORLD HE IS CLEAN , PAC FAILED AND RAN OUT ON THIS FIGHT !

PBF cares more about Pac taking tests then he is fighting Pac, so i was right the firstt time.
The thread title says PBF dont really want to fight Pac and that is clear to Pac. He dont really want to fight Pac. He wants him to take tests more than he wants to fight Pac.
He knows Pac dont want no tests, so to fight Pac he has to not ask for tests.

[Wreckless]

Most of boxing already knows this.
If he really thought Pac was easy work. He should have just fought him like all the other 40 fights he had before him.

[Reloaded]

PBF cares more about Pac taking tests then he is fighting Pac, so i was right the firstt time.
The thread title says PBF dont really want to fight Pac and that is clear to Pac. He dont really want to fight Pac. He wants him to take tests more than he wants to fight Pac.
He knows Pac dont want no tests, so to fight Pac he has to not ask for tests.

Ah is that how it all went , hmmmm right , I,ll give a tip buddy , stay away from used car salesmen because they going to fleece you on sight , a bit of trivia for you , you ever wonder how come in the real world for every person with a brain you got 30 ****heads , interesting reality when you think about it isnt it , so at the end of the day dont feel bad for being so gullible there is at least another 29 just like you on the forum at any given time