it is my conclusion that Floyd doesnt really want to fight Pac

[JAB5239]

Youve got to be kidding me , in world sport Peds is about winning , with fighters its catapults to a higher level because in the end it boils down to a fighters safety ,,,,, if you think thats a non event I will tell you if a fighter killed another in the ring and was then tested and found positive to PEDS I would bet my life he is charged with murder worst case and manslaughter at its best case ,,, Floyd dont have a right , god dam that is one of the most ridicules statements made on the board , you need to broaden your scope as to what the world thinks about PEDS .

Like I said, he has no right. He isn't the president of any sanctioning boxing organization or commission. He's used this as a way to back out of a fight he lost confidence in winning. Why is it that right after the Cotto-Pac fight Floyd was all gung ho about "whooping that punk ass", but after a little more reflection and the fight coming closer to reality he wants to implement this new rule he had never asked in 40 previous fights? What changed his initial confidence?

Second question. Name me any fighter who has ever been killed by another on PED's? Seems to me you like to dramatize for effect.

[407BoriKua]

Like I said, he has no right. He isn't the president of any sanctioning boxing organization or commission. He's used this as a way to back out of a fight he lost confidence in winning. Why is it that right after the Cotto-Pac fight Floyd was all gung ho about "whooping that punk ass", but after a little more reflection and the fight coming closer to reality he wants to implement this new rule he had never asked in 40 previous fights? What changed his initial confidence?

Second question. Name me any fighter who has ever been killed by another on PED's? Seems to me you like to dramatize for effect.

redskins>cowboys lol

[Doctor_Tenma]

Like I said, he has no right. He isn't the president of any sanctioning boxing organization or commission. He's used this as a way to back out of a fight he lost confidence in winning. Why is it that right after the Cotto-Pac fight Floyd was all gung ho about "whooping that punk ass", but after a little more reflection and the fight coming closer to reality he wants to implement this new rule he had never asked in 40 previous fights? What changed his initial confidence?

Second question. Name me any fighter who has ever been killed by another on PED's? Seems to me you like to dramatize for effect.

Pacquiao knew about Mayweather's demand for drug testig during the build up to Fire Power. If Mayweather didn't have any confidence, he wouldn't have agreed to 50/50, 10M per pound. If he wasn't confident, instead of WADA's 3-5 blood tests; he wouldn't have allowed Pacquiao to only agree to 3 and WITH a cutoff date.

[JAB5239]

redskins>cowboys lol

Not for a few more years my man. Not for a few more years.

[JAB5239]

Pacquiao knew about Mayweather's demand for drug testig during the build up to Fire Power. If Mayweather didn't have any confidence, he wouldn't have agreed to 50/50, 10M per pound. If he wasn't confident, instead of WADA's 3-5 blood tests; he wouldn't have allowed Pacquiao to only agree to 3 and WITH a cutoff date.

No matter what anyone thinks Floyd does not have a right to change the way things are done. Mayweather didn't have a choice but to agree to 50/50 if he wanted the biggest purse of his life. His desire to keep his 0 outweighed his desire for another large payday he could find elsewhere. I've always thought Pac should have taken the 14 day cutoff, but he wasn't and shouldn't be obligated to. He has been going by the rules, and until they are changed it is my opinion Floyd is more at fault for this fight not happening. The difference as I see it is Manny doesn't need the money and won't be strong armed by someone else's demands. Until someone beats him he's in the drivers seat.

[go1nbanana]

not only does floyd want the pac fight so bad, he came back to fight him----floyd knows he can beat pac decisively, and he even gave in to pac's demands right away for the most part---pac needs to give into the drug test demands---that's all he had to do---that's all----it was so simple, but after reading and hearing the reasoning for it, even after floyd gave a 2 week cutoff date, pac looked very fishy, and floyd and pac will happen, floyd wants the mental edge against pac already, and he's won it so far, and pac backed out of the fight---you see floyd just got an opponent recently, and he even tried to compromise with pac even after pac and his team backed out of the fight---floyd waited for them to change their minds with the 14 day cutoff thing---now floyd is fighting who many feel is a bigger threat to him than pac is----and when he beats shane, which he will in dominating fashion, floyd will fight pac--if pac gets by that pesty fighter clottey, who is a pain for any fighter---then floyd and pac will fight later this year i guarantee it, and floyd will dominate pac---then floyd will have the so called best ww in shane on his resume and the so called number p4p fighter on his resume, and floyd, just like he knows and just like he has always known, will once again be the top guy in the sport...then he can unify the belts against berto---and after he beats berto, floyd will no longer be criticized at ww ever again, but i ave a huge hunch people will demand he fight paul williams and criticize him if he doesnt, or sergio martinze, or kelly pavlik, or even hopkins for that matter-----i'm telling you now, this is how it will all play out, floyd will beat the number ww, then the number 1 p4p fighter, then the wbc champion at ww in berto...which is really floyd's vacated title anyway--so he'll just get it back----watch how this turns out---this will happen---and floyd will be on such a high after this, is ego will be super high---

all of these "will be" "will have" "will " are wishful thinking...and i don't think he will beat mosley first of all.

[Reloaded]

Like I said, he has no right. He isn't the president of any sanctioning boxing organization or commission. He's used this as a way to back out of a fight he lost confidence in winning. Why is it that right after the Cotto-Pac fight Floyd was all gung ho about "whooping that punk ass", but after a little more reflection and the fight coming closer to reality he wants to implement this new rule he had never asked in 40 previous fights? What changed his initial confidence?

Second question. Name me any fighter who has ever been killed by another on PED's? Seems to me you like to dramatize for effect.

Your wrong Floyd is the only one that does have a right , PEDS on the world agenda is bigger than you think , it has consequences that can ruin careers and reduce a cheating sportsman to nothing status , PEDS and its testing is in the same realm as testing for disease , you dont say no to an aids test , before it was mandated you dont say no if an opponent ask that you prove to be virus free , PEDS testing of this nature will also be mandated , PEDS is the same as Aids if your asked to be tested for any reasons in an official manner you are then obligated to say no problems Im am a clean sportsman test me , thats the right thing to do in todays climate , Pac ran out the door rather than a PEDS test , man you got to kidding me with your argument .

Name a fighter that has been killed by a PEDS user , umh so that means it cant happen or hasnt happened , with the testing procedure used it would be very hard to get caught , man your so out of the realm of common sense and how the big picture works in terms of major change and the steps it takes from non existent to mandated ,,,, Floyd wins this entire Pac debate in the eyes of the general public interested in world of sport ,,, PEDS IS A DIRTY WORD AND PAC WAS ASKED AND FOUND WANTING !

[go1nbanana]

Pacquiao knew about Mayweather's demand for drug testig during the build up to Fire Power. If Mayweather didn't have any confidence, he wouldn't have agreed to 50/50, 10M per pound. If he wasn't confident, instead of WADA's 3-5 blood tests; he wouldn't have allowed Pacquiao to only agree to 3 and WITH a cutoff date.

who said Pac knew? Pac/team have agreed to drug testing at the initial get-go but not until it was changed by Mayweather team to Olympic style testing up to the day of the fight. Just like the way Floyd/team pulled out of Dallas cowboys stadium as the venue when they are about to view the stadium, and that infuriated Arum.

[JAB5239]

Your wrong Floyd is the only one that does have a right , PEDS on the world agenda is bigger than you think , it has consequences that can ruin careers and reduce a cheating sportsman to nothing status , PEDS and its testing is in the same realm as testing for disease , you dont say no to an aids test , before it was mandated you dont say no if an opponent ask that you prove to be virus free , PEDS testing of this nature will also be mandated , PEDS is the same as Aids if your asked to be tested for any reasons in an official manner you are then obligated to say no problems Im am a clean sportsman test me , thats the right thing to do in todays climate , Pac ran out the door rather than a PEDS test , man you got to kidding me with your argument .

Name a fighter that has been killed by a PEDS user , umh so that means it cant happen or hasnt happened , with the testing procedure used it would be very hard to get caught , man your so out of the realm of common sense and how the big picture works in terms of major change and the steps it takes from non existent to mandated ,,,, Floyd wins this entire Pac debate in the eyes of the general public interested in world of sport ,,, PEDS IS A DIRTY WORD AND PAC WAS ASKED AND FOUND WANTING !

Look, Im not going to keep arguing this. If Floyd wants to clean up boxing as he says he would be lobbying every organization, commission and promoter for a change in drug testing policy. As it stands he has no right or authority to demand it on his own. I see him as disingenuous when it comes to testing. For 40 fights he never had a problem with the current procedure. Guys were failing plenty of tests but no cry of outrage came from Mayweather. All of a sudden the public is demanding he fight a guy who is destroying other fighters (some Floyd fought) and he's concerned with boxing and the rest of the sports world? I don't buy it. Only 3 things Floyd truly cares about. Himself, his 0, and his money.

[Reloaded]

Look, Im not going to keep arguing this. If Floyd wants to clean up boxing as he says he would be lobbying every organization, commission and promoter for a change in drug testing policy. As it stands he has no right or authority to demand it on his own. I see him as disingenuous when it comes to testing. For 40 fights he never had a problem with the current procedure. Guys were failing plenty of tests but no cry of outrage came from Mayweather. All of a sudden the public is demanding he fight a guy who is destroying other fighters (some Floyd fought) and he's concerned with boxing and the rest of the sports world? I don't buy it. Only 3 things Floyd truly cares about. Himself, his 0, and his money.

Your even wrong in fact ,,, Floyd didnt demand it he has no right to demand it , he asked for it and has every right to ask for it and Pac said no , like I said Pac was asked and found wanting , lets see where the consequences fall .