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It isn't an issue of the commision asking-it is a REQUEST that Floyd wanted-just as is the 10 million dollar fraction of a pound over the 147 limit that Pacquiao demanded.Again,it isn't about Floyd being "above the sport"-it is a simple request-most fighters have requests in contracts...Its not that the Pac camp would not the take the test if it was required. If the comission required it, they would comply, it is more about proving that Floyd is not bigger than the sport and they are not gonna be strrong armed an dictated too. I don't blame the pac camp. If the comission required it and he refused I would be su****ious, and I don't want to hear that Mosley is willing too. Mosley will do whatever it takes to get a big fight and he really has no choice especially since he has a history. Pac is not in Mosleys boat, and has plenty of other options. If Floyd wants this fight he will have to renegotiate his demands to comply with the Pacquiao side a little more than he would want, because if hedoesn't they will move on and fight Mosley and Floyd will be left with no other options. Wether you agree with it or not, it is actually a smart move on there part. I beleive this fight will end up getting done just more to the Pac camps liking.
In fact,when was the last time Floyd has went over the welterweight limit when he was fighting at that weight class???? This is not a catchweight fight,so what reason do team Pac have to believe that he would go above the WW limit-isn't that a commision issue???? It certainly IS-the commision would not allow Floyd to fight him at a higher weight than the limit.He has never shown up over 147 on the weigh-ins for WW....seems like a radical request from Pacquiao-or a way to try and "scare" Floyd out of a fight,especially when that request was demanded before the random blood tests.
Like I have mentioned before-one (Floyd's) demand is in place to benefit BOTH fighters and the other request benefits only one boxer (Pacquiao).....Last edited by damned1974; 02-09-2010, 08:18 AM.Comment
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This is NOT a catchweight fight-it is set at the limit of 147. When was the last time Floyd went over the limit in a welterweight fight????
In all fairness-Floyd jr has heard rumours through the "g****vine"-whether it is from his father,or the New York times, or Teddy Atlas,they have all been volatile enough to make Floyd feel that this request is warranted (it is not important if it is speculation-the rumours are out there,so why not take the testing???-it doesn't sound half as weird as you guys imply).
You guys are confusing commision issues for contract requests-there is a difference!
What is even more bizarre,is that a known PEDs user who slipped through NSAC's system,is fullfilling these random blood tests,yet a supposed "clean" Manny is rigidly against this...it brings su****ion on himself.Last edited by damned1974; 02-09-2010, 08:31 AM.Comment
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imdazed once again u make us look bad,what have u got against pacquaio?
Is he ur dadyy who abandoned u at birth??
honest the ****e u come up with on here is astounding......
I am a floyd fan but I dont think pac is on anything I think all of his opponents have been carefully picked and have suited his style perfectly..
Also his weight is not very simialar on fight night now as it was when he was fighting at 130......
The funny thing is imdazed u were one of the people saying that diaz was a bum,oscar a corpse,hatton finished since floyd and cotto not the same since margarito but since these accusations you have'nt mentioned these????
Why is this my friend?? its either one or the other man i still tink its the fighter's he's fighting that have made him so dominant NOT PED's.....
Also both fighters ****ed this fight up pac shud av agreed to the alledged 14 day window and Floyd should Never have asked for test's THAT he has never in his 40 previous fights asked for or that go beyond boxing commission's........
I am unbiased both are to blame on this one wether you admit it or not,im sure u wont imdazed I await your responsen which im pretty sure i already know....sighComment
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At this time, even if I don't believe that Pacquiao is taking PEDs, I really don't care anymore if some people are su****ious of Pacquiao taking PEDs at this point of his career, they can't prove it anyway. All they have are su****ions, conjectures, opinions, speculations...the truth will come years after or may be after Pacquiao retires...especially if there is someone in Pacquiao's camp who will reveal and attest that Pacquiao really took PEDs. At this point, everything is just purely su****ions/speculations.
My point is this: Why couldn't Floyd just go on with that fight with or without PEDs?? Is he not confident of his skills and talent?? I personally would say, Floyd is a much skillful and talented fighter than Pacquiao. He is a master defensive boxer. I believe there is a very big possibility that he can beat Pacquiao by decision! But why couldn't he just take that fight and take out that ridiculous olympic type of drug testing which is not even used AS A RULE in all professional sports, because its invasive/intrusive on the part of professional athletes?
Why would it take a boxer like Clottey to take Pacquiao? Is Clottey not afraid of Pacquiao having PEDs? The answer? YES, Clottey is not afraid, because he believes he can defeat Pacquiao with or without PEDs....Is Floyd willing to do that?? NO! Because he is simply afraid Pacquiao will destroy him! He is just not confident of his skills! I believe that there is really a very big possibility Floyd defeats Pacquiao even if he believes Pacquiao is on PEDs, but he doesn't take that risk...WHY?
Because Floyd is simply AFRAID! He is not confident enough to beat Pacquiao. And yet he tells people that Pacquiao is not indestructible..that Pacquiao has 3 losses while he does not have any loss...that Pacquiao is too small for him, etc.Last edited by namme; 02-09-2010, 09:06 AM.Comment
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LMAO!!!...Grounds to make a 10 million dollar per over pound request..lmao
IF you dont see the grounds your seriously obtuse.
I mean backing someone because they are of the same ethnic background no matter what is a bit much.
Is hard to take anyone serious when they are part of the :
Knights of kung pow or whatever
Pros should always make the weight no matter what bec that's what their supposed to do or the fight is off.. Noone shouldn't even make demands about the weight in the first place. If you signed the contract agreement it is ur responsible to not go over the weight limit. Jesus christ floyd is already fighting a small welter pac it's only right to make that demand 10mill or not watever.. n what he did to Marquez was a ***** move.Comment
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This article explained everything about Floyd just scared of Pac demanding this ridiculous outdated blood testing.
Olympic Tests Have Never Detected HGH in an Athlete: USADA Backs Urine
by Kevin Riley
The biggest fight in the history of boxing is in danger of not happening because Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants his opponent Manny Pacquiao to agree to random Olympic-style blood tests.
The only problem is that these random blood tests have never—yes that's right—never found Human Growth Hormone in any Olympic athlete that has ever been tested.
Interesting, huh?
Mayweather somehow believes that if his opponent Pacquiao who has never failed a drug test, refuses to take a test that has never caught anyone, then this fight can't happen.
How does this make sense? It doesn't. No wait, maybe Mayweather knows something the rest of us don't...no wait, maybe Mayweather is just trying to avoid the best fighter he has ever met.
But hold on, it gets even better.
Mayweather's camp has somehow wrangled the alliance of Travis Tygart, CEO of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, to try and spin this whole charade of events in their favor.
Tygart has told Yahoo Sports! that Pacquiao's resistance to submit to the blood tests "would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”
Please explain yourself Mr. Tygart, how can a test that's never caught anybody possibly provide a "loophole" for a cheater to step through?
It seems like the test itself is a loophole.
And if you don't think this sequence of events can get even more interesting, it can.
Listen to this.
USADA announced last year that they were funding a company that has developed a test to detect HGH in urine. And Pacquiao, as everyone knows, has agreed to submit to as many random urine tests as the Mayweather camp would like.
Tygart even told USA Today last year that the developers, Ceres Nanosciences, "have developed an outstanding technology. And we're looking forward to helping them develop it further so it can have a practical use in anti-doping efforts."
Yesterday, Ceres Nanosciences launched the first release of that new technology, NanotrapTM ESP Particles.
These particles are designed to improve complex biofluid sample processing allowing for the detection of low-abundance proteins that would not otherwise be detected and also uses existing medical equipment.
What this means, simply, is that HGH use is now detectable through testing of urine samples and the breakthrough technology is officially ready to "Rock-and-Roll."
Now we'll find out if Mayweather is ready to do the same.
Pacquiao certainly is.Comment
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This article explained everything about Floyd just scared of Pac demanding this ridiculous outdated blood testing.
Olympic Tests Have Never Detected HGH in an Athlete: USADA Backs Urine
by Kevin Riley
The biggest fight in the history of boxing is in danger of not happening because Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants his opponent Manny Pacquiao to agree to random Olympic-style blood tests.
The only problem is that these random blood tests have never—yes that's right—never found Human Growth Hormone in any Olympic athlete that has ever been tested.
Interesting, huh?
Mayweather somehow believes that if his opponent Pacquiao who has never failed a drug test, refuses to take a test that has never caught anyone, then this fight can't happen.
How does this make sense? It doesn't. No wait, maybe Mayweather knows something the rest of us don't...no wait, maybe Mayweather is just trying to avoid the best fighter he has ever met.
But hold on, it gets even better.
Mayweather's camp has somehow wrangled the alliance of Travis Tygart, CEO of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, to try and spin this whole charade of events in their favor.
Tygart has told Yahoo Sports! that Pacquiao's resistance to submit to the blood tests "would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”
Please explain yourself Mr. Tygart, how can a test that's never caught anybody possibly provide a "loophole" for a cheater to step through?
It seems like the test itself is a loophole.
And if you don't think this sequence of events can get even more interesting, it can.
Listen to this.
USADA announced last year that they were funding a company that has developed a test to detect HGH in urine. And Pacquiao, as everyone knows, has agreed to submit to as many random urine tests as the Mayweather camp would like.
Tygart even told USA Today last year that the developers, Ceres Nanosciences, "have developed an outstanding technology. And we're looking forward to helping them develop it further so it can have a practical use in anti-doping efforts."
Yesterday, Ceres Nanosciences launched the first release of that new technology, NanotrapTM ESP Particles.
These particles are designed to improve complex biofluid sample processing allowing for the detection of low-abundance proteins that would not otherwise be detected and also uses existing medical equipment.
What this means, simply, is that HGH use is now detectable through testing of urine samples and the breakthrough technology is officially ready to "Rock-and-Roll."
Now we'll find out if Mayweather is ready to do the same.
Pacquiao certainly is.
Your article is 100% correct but your FOCUS is 100% wrong...
***The random blood test weren't suggested ONLY for HGH...Why does everyone always assume that HGH is the only type of PED???
BTW - They were going to use both Urine and Random Blood tests..
Peace Mo!Comment
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