Pacquiao on PED

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but there is evidence against shane mosley in the form of leaked grand jury testimony & the founder of balco specifically accusing him of steroid use.

is there a single iota of evidence against pac?


but yes dead horse.

There wasn't any evidence of Shane using for what he was eventually caught for. We didn't find out until years afterward. In that same vein, using the excuse that there is no evidence for Pacquiao just doesn't fly. Heck, Evander Holyfield went decades without getting caught.

[FatBastard]

There wasn't any evidence of Shane using for what he was eventually caught for. We didn't find out until years afterward. In that same vein, using the excuse that there is no evidence for Pacquiao just doesn't fly. Heck, Evander Holyfield went decades without getting caught.

This still doesnt prove a squat

[IMDAZED]

This still doesnt prove a squat

Of course it doesn't. Neither did those tests the poster I was talking to was referring to. Sure didn't help in the case of Mosley and Evander.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

There wasn't any evidence of Shane using for what he was eventually caught for. We didn't find out until years afterward. In that same vein, using the excuse that there is no evidence for Pacquiao just doesn't fly. Heck, Evander Holyfield went decades without getting caught.

until then i give him the benefit of the doubt. Until a trainer comes out with some bloody guazes saying he is juicing a la brian mcnamee pac is innocent & the overall consensus boxing media's take on it support the notion that pac is clean & has survived the allegation with his reputation quite relatively intact.

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until then i give him the benefit of the doubt. Until a trainer comes out with some bloody guazes saying he is juicing a la brian mcnamee pac is innocent & the overall consensus boxing media's take on it support the notion that pac is clean & has survived the allegation with his reputation quite relatively intact.

Pacquiao called himself into question by refusing the tests.

[SlickBoxer]

Pacquiao called himself into question by refusing the tests.

Yeah, but he's scared of needles...

[fabie]

Pacquiao called himself into question by refusing the tests.

Pacquiao called himself into question, sure, but refusal to have test as per Mayweather's demands aren't grounds for admittance nor it is as an admission of guilt.

Questions are unanswered but I would rather have Pacquiao just let the questions fly...for I don't really care for the Mayweather's demands.

Is it fair? Yes and No.

What is fair is what the NEVADA STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION is for. That is their role. If Mayweather petitioned to the NSAC then it is within protocols.

This is where the whole issue is about. It is like accusing someone without going to the courts and actually filing a lawsuit. And thus there is no enactment or enforcement or weight of his demands.

Publicly, he did...obviously.

He is a master of that...he is a master of business and it shows, he is in for the money.

[jai mari078]

Pacquiao called himself into question by refusing the tests.

Its not that the Pac camp would not the take the test if it was required. If the comission required it, they would comply, it is more about proving that Floyd is not bigger than the sport and they are not gonna be strrong armed an dictated too. I don't blame the pac camp. If the comission required it and he refused I would be su****ious, and I don't want to hear that Mosley is willing too. Mosley will do whatever it takes to get a big fight and he really has no choice especially since he has a history. Pac is not in Mosleys boat, and has plenty of other options. If Floyd wants this fight he will have to renegotiate his demands to comply with the Pacquiao side a little more than he would want, because if hedoesn't they will move on and fight Mosley and Floyd will be left with no other options. Wether you agree with it or not, it is actually a smart move on there part. I beleive this fight will end up getting done just more to the Pac camps liking.

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Pacquiao called himself into question, sure, but refusal to have test as per Mayweather's demands aren't grounds for admittance nor it is as an admission of guilt.

Questions are unanswered but I would rather have Pacquiao just let the questions fly...for I don't really care for the Mayweather's demands.

Is it fair? Yes and No.

What is fair is what the NEVADA STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION is for. That is their role. If Mayweather petitioned to the NSAC then it is within protocols.

This is where the whole issue is about. It is like accusing someone without going to the courts and actually filing a lawsuit. And thus there is no enactment or enforcement or weight of his demands.

Publicly, he did...obviously.

He is a master of that...he is a master of business and it shows, he is in for the money.

Refusal may not be enough alone but a handful of lies, excuses and contradictory statements are.

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Its not that the Pac camp would not the take the test if it was required. If the comission required it, they would comply, it is more about proving that Floyd is not bigger than the sport and they are not gonna be strrong armed an dictated too. I don't blame the pac camp. If the comission required it and he refused I would be su****ious, and I don't want to hear that Mosley is willing too. Mosley will do whatever it takes to get a big fight and he really has no choice especially since he has a history. Pac is not in Mosleys boat, and has plenty of other options. If Floyd wants this fight he will have to renegotiate his demands to comply with the Pacquiao side a little more than he would want, because if hedoesn't they will move on and fight Mosley and Floyd will be left with no other options. Wether you agree with it or not, it is actually a smart move on there part. I beleive this fight will end up getting done just more to the Pac camps liking.

The commission is a convenient excuse. Pacquiao ignores them when he makes his own demands, why all of a sudden are they an organization that must be strictly adhered to?