Comments Thread For: Mosley: Mayweather Wouldn't Fight The Guys Who Beat Me

[TboneNYC09]

I heart Sugar Shane Mosley.

[GRUSTLER]

Floyd has tried to get a fight in the past but in the past year Mosley has repeatedly called him out and until the Berto fight fell through, Floyd didn't seem interested. Funnily enough, at that time it was Floyd's fans who kept claiming that Mosley was shot (not you, but a lot of Floyd fans were making that claim and saying that's why Floyd wasn't fighting him).

Just because Roach is confident he'll beat Clottey (and was equally confident that he'd beat Cotto) doesn't make him not a live wire, that's ridiculous. Clottey is a very big and very strong Welterweight, with an extremely tight defence; and he's very hard to beat or to look good against. He gave Cotto a hellish night and was beating Margarito until he injured his hand. He also beat Zab more easily than anyone else had done. He's rated higher than Berto by The Ring and by almost every other reputable independent ratings body. He was by far the biggest challenge at Welterweight who was available at that time, given that Mosley had already signed to fight Berto (and the Haiti disaster hadn't happened yet).

Dave, there is something your not seeing here. Mosley was calling
out Mayweather and getting nowhere because Floyd wanted to
fight Pac which was a bigger money fight. I doubt Floyd was scared
to fight Mosley when Berto pulled out because if you think about it,
Floyd didn't make a decision on who to fight because he was waiting
on the winner of Berto/Mosley and once the unfortunate situation
happened in Haiti, Team Mayweather immediately jumped at the
opportunity to fight Shane. Wasn't like they waited and thought
about it. As soon as Berto pulled out they went for Shane, right
or wrong? WE all know Clottey is a tough guy but apparently
Roach and Arum said Pac would dominate him fairly easy so how
can we be convinced that Pac picking Clottey is a big challenge for
him?

[Dave Rado]

Since when has Mayweather ever been known to do things he doesn't want to do?

He obviously didn't want to lose all his credibility, so of course he wanted to fight Mosley, given that the alternative was to lose his credibility. You're entitled to your opinion that his motivations were completely different but I have given good evidence for why a lot of people who are not haters beg to differ with your opinion.

[S.G.]

He he obviously didn't want to lose all his credibility, so of course he wanted to fight Mosley, given that the alternative was to lose his credibility. You're entitled to your opinion that his motivations were completely different but I have given good evidence for why a lot of people who are not haters beg to differ with your opinion.

So what you're saying basically amounts to "Floyd wanted to fight the best for his legacy" but you've still found a way to twist it and turn it against him.

He picked Mosley simply because he brought the most interest outside of Pacquiao. Interest = money. And he generates the interest because he's a great fighter.

I see nothing worthy of criticism in that motivation.

[Dave Rado]

Dave, there is something your not seeing here. Mosley was calling out Mayweather and getting nowhere because Floyd wanted to fight Pac which was a bigger money fight.

He could have fought Mosley in January and then Pac for all the Welterweight marbles after that, which would have made the Pac fight even bigger than it already was.

I doubt Floyd was scared to fight Mosley

I didn't claim he was scared.

when Berto pulled out because if you think about it, Floyd didn't make a decision on who to fight because he was waiting
on the winner of Berto/Mosley

Why the calls to Matthew Hatton and Malignaggi?

[Dave Rado]

So what you're saying basically amounts to "Floyd wanted to fight the best for his legacy" but you've still found a way to twist it and turn it against him.

He picked Mosley simply because he brought the most interest outside of Pacquiao. Interest = money. And he generates the interest because he's a great fighter.

I see nothing worthy of criticism in that motivation.

The point is that many people believe he really had no alternative at that point because there were no other credible fights available for him.

As I said, there were lots of stories, which he never denied, before the Pac-Clottey fight was made, that he was seeking a tune-up fight with a nobody and that Malignaggi and even Matthew Hatton had been approached. Once the Pac-Clottey fight was made, he would have looked terrible if he'd taken a fight like that so those stories suddenly stopped and soon after that, the Mosley fight was made.

[GRUSTLER]

Floyd is still in his prime, and he want to go down in history as a top 10 ATG. To achieve the latter he'll need to beat Williams. Plus most consider that he hasn't really fought the best possible competition since he was at Lightweight. (You may disagree but that's not an argument I'm interested in having in this thread - the fact is that most people do consider that to be the case).

Mosley has no illusions about being a top 10 ATG, and although he is still a top P4P fighter but is no longer in his prime (similar to Hopkins), and most people consider that he did spend his prime years fighting the best possible opposition.

So their situations simply aren't comparable.

OK, so if you see it like that then you can also see it like this.
If Shane has fought the best in his prime, then how come he
didn't want to fight Floyd when he was in his prime fighting
the best? I mean, isn't that when Floyd wanted to fight him?
When Shane was at his best? Floyd didn't fight Forrest, Winky
or Cotto but I know for sure Floyd wanted Shane.

[GRUSTLER]

He could have fought Mosley in January and then Pac for all the Welterweight marbles after that, which would have made the Pac fight even bigger than it already was.



I didn't claim he was scared.



Why the calls to Matthew Hatton and Malignaggi?

Did Floyd ever say that he wanted to fight Matthew
Hatton or Pauli Malignaggi. If Floyd really didn't want
to fight Shane then Floyd would have done Floyd and
ducked Shane according to everybody saying that is
what he does. Who could have stopped Floyd from
doing that? When was the last time anybody forced
Floyd to do anything that he didn't want to?

[S.G.]

The point is that many people believe he really had no alternative at that point because there were no other credible fights available for him.

...and he chose to fight the most credible opponent. As he has done for the vast majority of his career. All this speculation is baseless rubbish that only exists because of the anti-Mayweather climate in boxing.

Sorry but this is a complete non-issue that's only being perpetuated so the Mayweather detractors don't run out of ammo while Floyd is doing everything that's demanded of him. It would only resemble a reasonable talking point if Mayweather had chosen not to fight Mosley. As it stands Mayweather is fighting the best guy available to him and people still want to take that away from him - it's a joke.

[disolly]

Mosley is trying to play on the propaganda and the Notion that Floyd "only take easy fights"

Floyd was trying to fight Winky But Winky would not agree to come down to a certain weight as far as Vernon forest,Vernon forest was a nobody and Floyd wanted to focus on big money fights.

never heard of floyd wanting to fight winky and if he did, well there is no way winky could fight under 154, if that is something mayweather wanted. but i doubt floyd ever wanted anything to do with winky. mosley fought oscar in his prime, not when his own trainer said he couldn't pull the trigger anymore. though he never lost to him anyways. i think his excuse for cotto was that he was rep'd by arum but that goes out the window when he wanted to fight manny.
anyways , i hope shane knocks pretty boy out.