Which is a tougher opponent? Clottey or Mosley?

[Guest]

I respect your opinion because I think you truly believe it and your a credible boxing fan. I was mostly responding to Carnivore who is not credible and wouldn't be objective to save the Klitscho's lives.

It's all good. I guess my point in all this is I just wonder if the Margarito victory put Shane on some pedestal he perhaps shouldn't be on.

It's easy to do, he's had a very good career, and I think he's hella talented and can punch but I've seen him look like crap, then turn it on next fight.

And believe me, I know how Clottey chokes, but even in choking he keeps it somewhat close.

[Iceta Lives]

Mosley didn't quit against Margarito like Clottey practically did, and he also never let Cotto bully him around like Clottey did in that one round. Cotto would've never been able to pick Mosley up and slam him down like that because Mosley is a strong fighter who doesn't let anyone punk him on the inside like Clottey did. Clottey eventually shook it off I guess. But why did he altogether stop throwing punches? And plus he cut Cotto really bad over his eye and I think that is why he looked better in that fight to some people than he really did.

[Calilloyd]

i agree with this right here mosley has obviously had a better career then clottey and is coming off the impressive win over margarito but the more we look into that fight and the circumstances of the gloves im not so sure that win is as good as advertised. clottey is a very solid fighter who in my opinion fought a better and closer fight then mosley did with cotto. people who act like this is a ridiculous question should analyze mosley pre margs and his off and on performances and also realize he has been out of the ring for over a year and at his age that might be a factor and also watch some clottey fights and you will see a strong guy who may not have one punch ko power but he does have thudding power and a good defense and when he does throw it is usually combos. this is not as ridiculous a question as its being made out to be the question is who is the tougher fight now not who has the better resume and career.

Do you not remember Mosley-Margarito and Cottey-Margarito? I think the question can be answered by what each fighter brings to the table.

Handspeed? Mosley and it's not close.


Power? Mosley and its not close.


Mental edge and toughness? Mosley and it's not close. Did you see how much whining Clottey did in his fights with Margarito and Cotto? At times he looked like he wanted to quit.

Clottey brings nothing that makes him a more dangerous opponent than Mosley and there is no case for it.

[Guest]

Do you not remember Mosley-Margarito and Cottey-Margarito? I think the question can be answered by what each fighter brings to the table.

Handspeed? Mosley and it's not close.


Power? Mosley and its not close.


Clottey brings nothing that makes him a more dangerous opponent than Mosley and there is no case for it.

I think the circumstances in which they fought Margarito were very different.
Margs dropped 40 pounds in camp, then gets caught with loaded gloves. That can't be good mentally.

Clottey throws a much better jab, but I agree about Mosley's speed and power are better but Sometimes he suffocates himself with the way he fights though because Mosley has a weird little non effective jab most of the time.

[Ben d great]

they are both good, they have different style. Cant be equal but almost the same threat to any one

[ny123]

Do you not remember Mosley-Margarito and Cottey-Margarito? I think the question can be answered by what each fighter brings to the table.

Handspeed? Mosley and it's not close.


Power? Mosley and its not close.


Clottey brings nothing that makes him a more dangerous opponent than Mosley and there is no case for it.

two different fights with different circumstances we can not forget that margs was caught right before the fight trying to load his gloves that brings real questions into the true value of mosleys win wether we like it or not. mosley has the better legacy and resume by far and will go down in history as the better boxer but as of right now im not sure that he is the tougher fight out of the 2 and by using the triangle theory your using i could argue that clottey fought cotto closer then mosley did so that means he is the better fighter. some things that may seem ridiculous in boxing one day may be proven to be true the next for example if 2 years ago people would say that margs pac was a mismatch in pacs favor im pretty sure the majority of bxscene would say that was crazy.

[baracuda]

miguel cotto should know......lol

[The Surgeon]

Mosley is the harder fight, he's better than Clottey and he would in my opinion BEAT Pac and give May more problems than JC.

But im of the opinion the only reason Floyd has taken the fight is because he wants to out do Pacquaio who has picked a big tough oppenent who the fans respect.

[The Surgeon]

Mosley has a weird little non effective jab most of the time.

true, which is annoying because when he uses it properly its a very effective weapon to him

[Calilloyd]

two different fights with different circumstances we can not forget that margs was caught right before the fight trying to load his gloves that brings real questions into the true value of mosleys win wether we like it or not. mosley has the better legacy and resume by far and will go down in history as the better boxer but as of right now im not sure that he is the tougher fight out of the 2 and by using the triangle theory your using i could argue that clottey fought cotto closer then mosley did so that means he is the better fighter. some things that may seem ridiculous in boxing one day may be proven to be true the next for example if 2 years ago people would say that margs pac was a mismatch in pacs favor im pretty sure the majority of bxscene would say that was crazy.

Getting caught cheating is not an excuse for losing as far as I'm concerned. By the same token I can very easily say Cotto was not the same fighter after his fight with Margarito. Which would make him a better fighter for the Mosley fight than he was for Clottey. As far as Margarito's fight with Mosley, Margarito fought the same what he always does. Relentless pressure. It's not like he was timid or reluctant which might have happened if he was truly affected mentally. I see a lot of people trying to discredit Mosley's win but I don't see in any way how Margarito could ever beat Mosley with that style. He far too slow and it plats into Mosleys style. Nobody has ever beaten Mosley with that style. Mosley has always been troubled by boxers with good jabs. That';s how he lost to Cotto. Cotto beat him with his jab. I'm not using the triangle theory. I was actually responding to your comment that Clottey fought a better fight against Cotto than Mosley. I just countered by saying the same example could be made with Margarito-Mosley.