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  • boxingfan76
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    #211
    Originally posted by damned1974
    Gosh-don't list those fighters as a legitimate source of top,prime fighters again-I'll piss myself! I'm serious man-Oscar,Morales,Cotto-in their primes???? I'm gone!
    your right, pac hasnt faced a single top guy in their prime. pac has indeed faced great great fighters whom at one time were the top of their weight class and at one time ruled, however thats not the same thing pac hasnt faced any of those guys while they were the top or in their prime, sure they had a name, but they were all at the dowslide of their careers. anyone that cant see this is just lying to themselves.delhoaya 10 years past his best, barrera half beat to death after morales, morales losing streak after barerra,david diaz, club fighter, jmm a loss diguised as a win and a draw, to be fair manny won the first, lost the second,hatton, chopped liver, cotto,-shot after margarito, clottey is in his prime however margs already beat him and he isnt an elite a fighter, pac has great names in there with surefire hall of famers, but he got them all when they were faded.that is why the mayweather fight was sooo important pac for once just once was actually going to fight a top in his prime guy something hes never done.

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      #212
      Originally posted by fcastro1
      name a welter that will be tougher than clottey aside from mosley or floyd?
      In other words "exclude fighters in Manny's weight division that can beat him"...Hell-even Margarito beat Clottey! Wait-lets change the question to "name a welter besides Floyd,Mosely and any fighters above 5ft 10 or have decent speed and a right hand"!!!

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        #213
        Originally posted by boxingfan76
        your right, pac hasnt faced a single top guy in their prime. pac has indeed faced great great fighters whom at one time were the top of their weight class and at one time ruled, however thats not the same thing pac hasnt faced any of those guys while they were the top or in their prime, sure they had a name, but they were all at the dowslide of their careers. anyone that cant see this is just lying to themselves.delhoaya 10 years past his best, barrera half beat to death after morales, morales losing streak after barerra,david diaz, club fighter, jmm a loss diguised as a win and a draw, to be fair manny won the first, lost the second,hatton, chopped liver, cotto,-shot after margarito, clottey is in his prime however margs already beat him and he isnt an elite a fighter, pac has great names in there with surefire hall of famers, but he got them all when they were faded.that is why the mayweather fight was sooo important pac for once just once was actually going to fight a top in his prime guy something hes never done.
        you can do that to anyones career. but the fact remains pac beat barrea on his best run and top 3pfp. marquez was top 2 p4p and pac won. cotto was top 5 pfp and hatton top 10. these fighters were hardly on a downward spiral when pac fought them.

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          #214
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          So your saying the Oscar Floyd SD with was 9 years past his prime too? Just making sure your consistant.
          when floyd beat oscar oscar wasnt his best however, he wasnt nearly as faded as when pac faced him remember, forbes broke delahoyas cheek and put pretty much an ass whupping on him rt before pac.delhoya was at his best in 97-99 thats a long time ago.

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            #215
            Originally posted by damned1974
            In other words "exclude fighters in Manny's weight division that can beat him"...Hell-even Margarito beat Clottey! Wait-lets change the question to "name a welter besides Floyd,Mosely and any fighters above 5ft 10 or have decent speed and a right hand"!!!
            read my earlier posts. pac would have fought mosley if floyd never came back with his drama.

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              #216
              Originally posted by fcastro1
              you can do that to anyones career. but the fact remains pac beat barrea on his best run and top 3pfp. marquez was top 2 p4p and pac won. cotto was top 5 pfp and hatton top 10. these fighters were hardly on a downward spiral when pac fought them.
              bs, hattin almost goy ko'd by laszcano, thenpreviouly kod out cold by mayweather, hatton was in a division where there wasnt anybody it doesnt mean he was very good. cotto wasnt no top 5 pnd for pnd at any point after the margarito loss thats just a flat out lie no way in hell was cotto in pnd for pnd even 10 after that loss.cotto may have beaten mosley but when he did he barely did and he certainly wouldnt beat him after margs or now!

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                #217
                Originally posted by fcastro1
                you can do that to anyones career. but the fact remains pac beat barrea on his best run and top 3pfp. marquez was top 2 p4p and pac won. cotto was top 5 pfp and hatton top 10. these fighters were hardly on a downward spiral when pac fought them.
                the best you can say about those guys is they were active.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by madsweeney
                  So your saying the Oscar Floyd SD with was 9 years past his prime too? Just making sure your consistant.
                  At least the version of Oscar that fought Floyd was at a healthy weight and didn't have a style based around an injury or get punched around by Steve "2 small" Forbes! Past his best,yes-but it's even more disgraceful claiming glory off of the Oscar win,when he had i.v. marks in attempt to rehydrate.I suppose I should kick arse on a cripple-maybe I can get some glory!

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                    you sir are the IDIOT!!!! it does not matter where they are now. tim bradley has been ducked by pac, to the point most of these fighters are still ranked fighters! still being avoided by pac. he did not fight the champions moron! he fought one champ and demanded he fight at a catch wt.t bradley, k holt, n campbell, j casamayor, judah, callazo, torres, witter, j diaz, barrios, marquez, mosley. are all STILL ranked fighters all AVOIDED by pac.he only wants to fight face first fighters with no lateral movement.and all the fighters you give pac credit for, were already beat by floyd.check your facts before you reveal you dont know boxing!!!!


                    LOL and they say Pac-Fans are bad..

                    This ***** is straight up clueless about boxing..

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by fcastro1
                      read my earlier posts. pac would have fought mosley if floyd never came back with his drama.
                      So...who is the "couldve wouldve" people again? if if if if

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