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  • fcastro1
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    #191
    Originally posted by damned1974
    Are you sure Pacquiao NEVER bitches or ducks??? You have never read about his negotiations have you? C'mon- are you really a boxing fan,or a boxer fan,because the only **** I hear from you is Manny is the GOAT,and Floyd ducks...look at it objectively.They both play games-but at least Floyd never ran from a teaspoon of blood or from a fighter because he is "too tall" ...
    what are you talking about. pac has never ducked a challenge and now floyd comes into the picture pac is a ducker and floyd is the real fighter. if floy wanted this fight all he had to do was sign and prove to everyone like all of you claim how great he is. but he had to make this into a soap opera, classic floyd move. considering pac is at his 7th weight class i hardly see him ducking foreman.

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      #192
      Originally posted by fcastro1
      who is floyd fighting?

      no one!!!
      Last I checked,he is setting up a fight with a guy Manny was running from-Mosely.Instead,Manny is reaching for the stars gainst a guy who needs to stand in one place just to throw a punch,walks in straight lines,and just came off of a loss- sound familiar-no I'm not talking about Manny's previous opponents (this time),I am talking about Clottey. Another predictable fight-thank goodness for streaming!

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        #193
        Originally posted by damned1974
        You didn't watch Pac vs Marquez did you? As for the rest-what quality would you say they were in at these stages of their careers-lets be honest now!
        You probably consider Calzaghe's win over Roy Jones to be a revelation,eh?
        now you are talking silly. barrera was prime and so was cotto and hatton, pacquiaos fighting style make them look worse than they are. marquez was a good fight. some had maqrquez winning some had pac, but thats exactly what happens when you challenge yourself you get tough fights, nothing to be ashamed of.

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          #194
          Originally posted by fcastro1
          what are you talking about. pac has never ducked a challenge and now floyd comes into the picture pac is a ducker and floyd is the real fighter. if floy wanted this fight all he had to do was sign and prove to everyone like all of you claim how great he is. but he had to make this into a soap opera, classic floyd move. considering pac is at his 7th weight class i hardly see him ducking foreman.
          In all honesty-it's more of a classic Manny move-just look at his last several negotiations.Manny creates major problems with Hatton,Oscar and Cotto threatening to end negotiations at various times.Who creates dramas again?
          yes-he had stated "Yuri's height as a reason for turning down the fight"...and why did he not step up to Mosely? Shane said he would meet him at 140!!!! I recall Williams wanting a fight with Manny as well....hmmm....sounds weird to knock these fighters back if he is really fighting the "best" as you mention...
          the point is-Manny is playing games more than you care to admit.....

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            #195
            Originally posted by damned1974
            Last I checked,he is setting up a fight with a guy Manny was running from-Mosely.Instead,Manny is reaching for the stars gainst a guy who needs to stand in one place just to throw a punch,walks in straight lines,and just came off of a loss- sound familiar-no I'm not talking about Manny's previous opponents (this time),I am talking about Clottey. Another predictable fight-thank goodness for streaming!
            has not been signed.

            name me the last fighter pac fought that came from a loss? you act like clottey is a walk in the park. he would give floyd problems with his high defence and agressive style. this is a tough fight. clottey will weigh almost 170 and has good d. this fight is not a given for pac.

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              #196
              Originally posted by damned1974
              In all honesty-it's more of a classic Manny move-just look at his last several negotiations.Manny creates major problems with Hatton,Oscar and Cotto threatening to end negotiations at various times.Who creates dramas again?
              yes-he had stated "Yuri's height as a reason for turning down the fight"...and why did he not step up to Mosely? Shane said he would meet him at 140!!!! I recall Williams wanting a fight with Manny as well....hmmm....sounds weird to knock these fighters back if he is really fighting the "best" as you mention...
              the point is-Manny is playing games more than you care to admit.....
              those fights went ahead though. pac just reached welter hardly enough time to face everyone, but i honestly believe he would have faced mosley after cotto if floyd never returned with his drama. pac said he would face margarito after marg beat cotto, everyone thought he was insane. roach said they were willing to fight williams at 147.

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                #197
                Originally posted by fcastro1
                now you are talking silly. barrera was prime and so was cotto and hatton, pacquiaos fighting style make them look worse than they are. marquez was a good fight. some had maqrquez winning some had pac, but thats exactly what happens when you challenge yourself you get tough fights, nothing to be ashamed of.
                Honestly-I am embarrassed for you-
                Did Hatton look prime,did Cotto look prime? Both fighters had one decent looking fight inbetween ordinary fights and severe arse beatings! I am confused about what you consider "prime"....remind me not to place a bet on account of your advise!

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                  Manny Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach doesn't think much about Floyd Mayweather Jr's selection of welterweight opponents over the last few years. Speaking with Gareth Davies of The Telegraph Sport, Roach said Mayweather lacks the courage to fight the toughest guys in his division and money is not enough to motivate him. [Click Here To Read More]
                  If he fights mosely then ill probably respect him a bit....but tbh If he fighted

                  -Pacqiuao
                  -Cotto
                  -Margarito
                  -Mosely

                  then i wouldve respected him more....otherwise no.

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by damned1974
                    Honestly-I am embarrassed for you-
                    Did Hatton look prime,did Cotto look prime? Both fighters had one decent looking fight inbetween ordinary fights and severe arse beatings! I am confused about what you consider "prime"....remind me not to place a bet on account of your advise!
                    they were prime. pac beats fighters so bad that fans like you claim they are shot when they are not. cotto looked good for the first 5 rounds, he wasn't shot. hatton looked good against malignaggi and considering what paulie has done recently you have to say hatton was prime. pac is just offensively minded and ferocious, he will make a lot of good fighters look worse than they are.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by fcastro1
                      has not been signed.

                      name me the last fighter pac fought that came from a loss? you act like clottey is a walk in the park. he would give floyd problems with his high defence and agressive style. this is a tough fight. clottey will weigh almost 170 and has good d. this fight is not a given for pac.
                      Well-didn't Clottey just have a loss????? As for others-they weren't far removed from serious beatings and fought with difference and less confidence.Marquee names do not equate to prime ability...
                      Clottey will not be a tough fight-it is an easy fight.EASY fight. You are correct-Clottey is NOT a walk in the park-because you can break a sweat with walking-this will be an easy fight.

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