BOB ARUM: "MAYWEATHER would have taken the $8 million to fight MARGARITO."

[-Kev-]

Yea I was never big on youtube posting because there was never intelligent conversation, here even with all the bullshit there is some good boxing conversation that I don't normally get to have. That sort of conversation doesn't extend to Floyd Mayweather though but whatever there are other guys to talk about even if it is annoying to deal with the Floyd stuff but i still try and deal with it intelligently.

Definitely, once I joined BS, I never went back to Youtube. I did go back actually in 2008, my last boxing comment on Youtube was predicting Hopkins over Pavlik. I was calling every body crazy for thinking Pavlik will beat Hopkins, I got frustrated at the people's reasons for picking Pavlik so I never went back. Not that boxingscene was that much better, but it is better.

[Canelo Phresh]

facts and logic are a beast

[IronDanHamza]

@Gambler and Kev (Not going to multiquote the list of posts from you guys)

Guys, I'm not claiming Mayweather is a ducker. I don't believe he is even remotely a ducker. The only person really "ducked" so to speak was Margarito. And not because he was afraid of him like I have stated.

Floyd Mayweather is my favourite active fighter and I have been following his career since the late 90's. I am far from hating the guy.

And all due respect, I don't have a "naked eye" to this situation. As I said, I have been following Floyd Mayweather since the late 90's and have been following the sport thoroughly a lot lot longer. Believe me, I understand what happens. I never once said Mayweather shouldn't ahve fought Judah, I know the backgrounds behing the fight being arranged and so forth and although he lost the fans still wanted the fight. BUT, Margarito was known and linked with Mayweather even before the Zab Judah fight. Talsk were already brewing.

Kev I think you are slightly exaggerating the whole Baldomir thing. I mean, Brian Kenny asked him to fight him but there wasn't reallythat much ask for it. People would have been as happy with Baldomir as they would with Margarito. That's for sure. All of those threads are fine and dandy but it's mainly morons starting those threads.

My opinion isn't uneducated, bro. I understand the whole feud, I followed it, I endured it, I know it. But the fact is the Margarito fight could have been made instead of Baldomir if Floyd really wanted it that much. Like I said, I don't blame him at all for fighting Baldomir. As I stated, I don't believe Floyd was afraid or "running" from Margs like people eraically claim. He merely chose his opponent which hapened to be the easier one for the same money because he was more focused on the Oscar fight. Makes sense for Floyd to do that.

[-Kev-]

@Gambler and Kev (Not going to multiquote the list of posts from you guys)

Guys, I'm not claiming Mayweather is a ducker. I don't believe he is even remotely a ducker. The only person really "ducked" so to speak was Margarito. And not because he was afraid of him like I have stated.

Floyd Mayweather is my favourite active fighter and I have been following his career since the late 90's. I am far from hating the guy.

And all due respect, I don't have a "naked eye" to this situation. As I said, I have been following Floyd Mayweather since the late 90's and have been following the sport thoroughly a lot lot longer. Believe me, I understand what happens. I never once said Mayweather shouldn't ahve fought Judah, I know the backgrounds behing the fight being arranged and so forth and although he lost the fans still wanted the fight. BUT, Margarito was known and linked with Mayweather even before the Zab Judah fight. Talsk were already brewing.

Kev I think you are slightly exaggerating the whole Baldomir thing. I mean, Brian Kenny asked him to fight him but there wasn't reallythat much ask for it. People would have been as happy with Baldomir as they would with Margarito. That's for sure. All of those threads are fine and dandy but it's mainly morons starting those threads.

My opinion isn't uneducated, bro. I understand the whole feud, I followed it, I endured it, I know it. But the fact is the Margarito fight could have been made instead of Baldomir if Floyd really wanted it that much. Like I said, I don't blame him at all for fighting Baldomir. As I stated, I don't believe Floyd was afraid or "running" from Margs like people eraically claim. He merely chose his opponent which hapened to be the easier one for the same money because he was more focused on the Oscar fight. Makes sense for Floyd to do that.

Na, you're opinion is not uneducated. I quoted you and said that but it wasn't directed at you. You're a well-educated poster it seems.

I said it would be no fun if you didn't have uneducated opinions and speculations. If it was directed at you would have said "it would be no fun if you didn't have uneducated opinions and speculations like IronDamHamza". Lol I just green k'd you yesterday and called you one of the best posters on here, so it would be ****** of me to call you uneducated the next day.

[The Gambler1981]

@Gambler and Kev (Not going to multiquote the list of posts from you guys)

Guys, I'm not claiming Mayweather is a ducker. I don't believe he is even remotely a ducker. The only person really "ducked" so to speak was Margarito. And not because he was afraid of him like I have stated.

Floyd Mayweather is my favourite active fighter and I have been following his career since the late 90's. I am far from hating the guy.

And all due respect, I don't have a "naked eye" to this situation. As I said, I have been following Floyd Mayweather since the late 90's and have been following the sport thoroughly a lot lot longer. Believe me, I understand what happens. I never once said Mayweather shouldn't ahve fought Judah, I know the backgrounds behing the fight being arranged and so forth and although he lost the fans still wanted the fight. BUT, Margarito was known and linked with Mayweather even before the Zab Judah fight. Talsk were already brewing.

Kev I think you are slightly exaggerating the whole Baldomir thing. I mean, Brian Kenny asked him to fight him but there wasn't reallythat much ask for it. People would have been as happy with Baldomir as they would with Margarito. That's for sure. All of those threads are fine and dandy but it's mainly morons starting those threads.

My opinion isn't uneducated, bro. I understand the whole feud, I followed it, I endured it, I know it. But the fact is the Margarito fight could have been made instead of Baldomir if Floyd really wanted it that much. Like I said, I don't blame him at all for fighting Baldomir. As I stated, I don't believe Floyd was afraid or "running" from Margs like people eraically claim. He merely chose his opponent which hapened to be the easier one for the same money because he was more focused on the Oscar fight. Makes sense for Floyd to do that.

That makes some sense, I just don't feel it is a simple situation once Floyd choose to fight Oscar and felt he could get that fight the die was cast there was no pulling it back.

I just don't feel that was a real option at that point, sure he could have fought him back when he fought Mitchell when it was first discussed but his goal was Judah who was the man at that point and Margarito really isn't a good warm up for Judah.

I just don't know how someone could separate the political issues, which people don't like but they are real.

I don't think it had anything to do with harder,easier, more dangerous, lineal title, fear or anything like that. It simply was simpler to make and much less drama involved. If the shoe was on the other foot and Baldomir was with Arum and Margarito was the other guy I think it would have been Margarito.

[-Kev-]

I'm lazy, I reply to some one in one post, and in that same post I talk in general. So that poster might get offended with something I was saying in general.

[IronDanHamza]

Na, you're opinion is not uneducated. I quoted you and said that but it wasn't directed at you. You're a well-educated poster it seems.

I said it would be no fun if you didn't have uneducated opinions and speculations. If it was directed at you would have said "it would be no fun if you didn't have uneducated opinions and speculations like IronDamHamza". Lol I just green k'd you yesterday and called you one of the best posters on here, so it would be ****** of me to call you uneducated the next day.

Ahh, my mistake. I misunderstood what you were saying.

Did you? I must have missed that but thanks anyway, bro.

[-Kev-]

Ahh, my mistake. I misunderstood what you were saying.

Did you? I must have missed that but thanks anyway, bro.

Yeah check for EngorgedW/Blood in your user CP. No prob.

[IronDanHamza]

That makes some sense, I just don't feel it is a simple situation once Floyd choose to fight Oscar and felt he could get that fight the die was cast there was no pulling it back.

I just don't feel that was a real option at that point, sure he could have fought him back when he fought Mitchell when it was first discussed but his goal was Judah who was the man at that point and Margarito really isn't a good warm up for Judah.

I just don't know how someone could separate the political issues, which people don't like but they are real.

I don't think it had anything to do with harder,easier, more dangerous, lineal title, fear or anything like that. It simply was simpler to make and much less drama involved. If the shoe was on the other foot and Baldomir was with Arum and Margarito was the other guy I think it would have been Margarito.

Maybe, maybe. I guess we will never know that.

I understand things exist that make it difficult but I believe it could have been made. Maybe it was simply easier at the time so they went that way, maybe Mayweather was scared tod eath like some people claim.

I personally think it has something to do with Oscar being his main goal and anything else was secondary thus the Lineal Champion who happened to be a weaker option would be a nice warm up fight. But I'm sure we can just agree to disagree on that. Since, we really don't know.

Either way like I stated I don't think Floyd was afraid of Margarito per se nor do I believe he ducked the list of people that people wrongly claim.

I just think he picked and chose at this stage, which pretty much everyone in history does at one point or another.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I agree Sekonds. Its amazing how people STILL want to act like this info doesnt exist. These SAME people said there was no way Floyd would fight Shane before fighting Pac because it was too risky. Well that went well.

Floyd aint scared of these dudes man.