Comments Thread For: Pacquiao vs Margarito Clash is Possible, Says Arum

[dom329]

Blood tests require more than a teaspoon of blood in fact they may need several viles of it to test correctly. I have taken lots of blood tests over the years and never was it just a teaspoon.

There are different types of blood testing that require different amounts of blood. From all of the reports that came out the info says the specific PED tests that they wanted only require a teaspoon of blood.

[Athrun340]

Arum is going to destroy Pac's legacy if he avoids another Pac/PBF fight...All he's doing is padding his pocket and Manny hasn't shown that he's smart enough to notice that it is his legacy that is going to be tarnished, not Arum's - as all Arum cares about is the money...BTW, I'm not calling Pac dumb because he can be a great boxer, cool person but not a savvy business man...The sad part is Pac trusts Arum and doesn't believe he would do anything to harm him...Now, let's be clear, I'm taking about LEGACY NOT MONEY...because Arum has made him tons of Money! Remember Arum managed both ODLH and PBF...and they both left him because they were better informed about the business side of things and weren't as trusting as Pac.

But back to Pac and his legacy - do to the missteps and lies, everything Arum has done to build up Pac is slowly being undone...Can you believe how much luster Pac has already lost??? Before the PBF negotiations, Pac was on the verge of Superstardom...But right before our very eyes Pac is undeniably being rebranded - His loyal supporters will love him no matter what, because that's what supporters do...but MOST, not all fringe and true boxing fans now view him in a totally different light - AND THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO TAKE YOU TO SUPERSTARDOM, NOT YOUR LOYAL SUPPORTERS...

Many people will attempt to blame the Mayweathers for Manny's downfall but that would be a cop out...Arum, Roach and Pac have done far more to damage the Pac brand than PBF could have ever done; Which doesn't make much sense but that's another story altogether...It just never felt like they were inspired to make the fight that everyone wanted to see...and now that they've scheduled Clottey, they're already talking about a potential Margarito fight??? YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME...Watch what happens in this very thread...besides the usual PAC supporters you'll see the majority of NON-PAC STANS RIPPING HIM - Again, it is these boxing fans, fringe fans and media outlets that will make Pac an Iconic Megastar - from the beginning there just wasn't any enthusiasm from them in targeting PBF, they mentioned a lot of options instead of the person that everyone wanted them to challenge - People were in love with Pac and saw him as the confident KO artist that would beat the ****y and brash PBF, but instead he mentioned the likes of Malignaggi and Yuri???

Could you imagine Don King not doing everything he could to make the Tyson/Holyfield or Lewis fights - The Holy/Tyson fight which I might add had random blood tests??? or...Could you imagine GBP or PBF not doing everything they could to make their fight??? Arum from the start, constantly came up with reasons why the fight couldn't be made??? GBP and PBF until the very end never made any other plans...the only time they mentioned another fighter was when Arum officially announced Pac/Clottey which IS a solid fight...but I'm sorry but Clottey, Margarito, Yuri Foreman or any other in house Arum fighter doesn't offer anything that would be classified as career defining - Unless you want to chase the Yuri title but that won't draw any fans beyond diehard Pac fans - Heck, I'll still watch but I'm a boxing fanatic...But let's be clear it damn sure doesn't scream blockbuster...and I think a lot of NON-Pac Fanboys and girls will agree - If Manny is trying to move into the Tyson, Jordan, Tiger, Federer, etc. ICONIC catagory then he'll need a career defining fight and unfortunately PBF is it...Random blood test or not he must choose this fight...Not because PBF says so, or because he hasn't done alot in his career or because he's not nice or a steroid user (which I don't believe) but because the public demands it and unforunately Pac will take the blame even if Arum does all of the lying or obvious spinning...Look at these boards, polls, media outlets, boxers, etc...They're coming down on Pac not Arum...

Pac is a boxer, through and through and I hate to see what he's being rebranded as but if he continues on the current path that Arum has for him, he is going to end up destroying his legacy.

Peace Mo!

Great post. I feel the same way. It's Bob Arum's fault why Pacquiao-mayweather didnt happen.

[dom329]

It's just a teaspoon of blood which is about 5ml. It would take 24hrs at most for the body to replenish that amount probably less for an athlete in Pac's condition. I can understand not doing it within 48hrs of a fight maybe even 72hrs but 14 days is a bit of a cop out.

I read that 1 hour would replenish a lot more than 1 teaspoon.

[dom329]

anyone who has ever seen a mayweather interview would look at this whole fiasco and know that it's just another one of his stunts. the guy is a complete fraud who is constantly embarrassing himself. arum's biggest mistake was that the instant floyd wanted random blood testing or anything else out of the ordinary he should have just told mayweather to **** off and called the fight off. they got ****** into mayweahter's manipulative games and it did look bad for both sides. they did the smart thing by picking the most challenging fighter out there in clottey after the negotiations fell through. now it's all on floyd. HE HAS TO FIGHT MOSLEY WITH NO BULL**** ANTICS OR DEMANDS (LIKE THE FIGHT BEING AT 154 AND WEARING 10OZ GLOVES) OR EVERYONE WILL NO JUST HOW BIG OF A JOKE HE IS.

154 would benefit Mosley and I believe that 10 ounce gloves is what they use at 154. Floyd probably would not be demanding that lol.

[rao007]

It's just a teaspoon of blood which is about 5ml. It would take 24hrs at most for the body to replenish that amount probably less for an athlete in Pac's condition. I can understand not doing it within 48hrs of a fight maybe even 72hrs but 14 days is a bit of a cop out.

Huh..I hope DominicanoSoy sees this post.

[solly6]

154 would benefit Mosley and I believe that 10 ounce gloves is what they use at 154. Floyd probably would not be demanding that lol.

yea i know that. i have a pretty strong feeling that if floyd does actually fight shane he will demand 10oz gloves. that's why i think he might want it at 154. i will be shocked if he fights shane at 147 with 8oz gloves. take my word on that

[hanzoh74]

The thing that throws the controversial Mosley win out of the window in the case of Cotto is Cotto got viciously ko'd by Margarito afterwards then Shane viciously ko'd Margarito. The Cotto/Mosley fight needed a rematch. So Shane was the man to beat with Cotto coming off that vicious ko loss (even tho he got plastered). Cotto then barely escaped Clottey. He needed a vacation not a Pacroid. Pac fought a wounded lion. Shane was fresh with momentum, your boy Pacroid doesnt fight guys like that so now who does he fight? Clottey coming off wars with Cotto and Margarito (losing to both).

are u ****** or something?? i told u its a business thingy so try asking Arum about it not me...Its still useless no matter how u put it, u *****s will find a way discrediting Pac even if he beats Shane like hes on steoids or Shane not on his prime but dnt worry, Pac will fight Shane after beating Clottey coz im sure ur hero Xylofloyd will duck him as he always does

[Allucard]

its clear as a daylight. Arum doesnt want Pacquiao to face Mayweather yet because he thinks hes gonna lose. Thats why hes making all these top rank matches so he could get all the money he can get before Pacquiao eventually face Mayweather

watch

Pacquiao - Clottey - Texas
Pacquiao - Margarito - New Jersey

and didnt he also promise Valero a fight with Pacquiao in Macau?

The problem is, Pacquiao won't make all that much money while incurring in a big risk of taking damage. Pacquiao's defense isn't world class and he does take some punches. Both Clottey and Margarito have heavy hands. Bad bad decision for the Manny camp. Arum is what 70 years old? He is making as much sense.

[solly6]

are u ****** or something?? i told u its a business thingy so try asking Arum about it not me...Its still useless no matter how u put it, u *****s will find a way discrediting Pac even if he beats Shane like hes on steoids or Shane not on his prime but dnt worry, Pac will fight Shane after beating Clottey coz im sure ur hero Xylofloyd will duck him as he always does

it's ridiculous how the people on this forum put ****ing MOSLEY ON SOME PEDESTAL. Yea he beat the most pathetic looking margarito that I had ever seen. I mean the guy had just been busted with plaster in his gloves minutes before the fight so i'm sure his head was all there. he didn't look good against a way past his prime mayorga and he got outboxed plain and simple by cotto. unless he can knockout pac (who just took cotto's best shots) he would get absolutely destroyed by pac. he can't box at pacman's pace for more than 5or6 rounds.

[hanzoh74]

More proof they don't want a mayweather fight

What an idiot! firstly, FMJ could have waited the Pac-Hatton fight and fight him after Pac disposed him but what did he do?? He instead fought an overbloated featherweight in his comeback fight!!! Second he could have fought Pac in Dec. if not for the postponement he did....what makes u think he will not do it again this year??? i also saw this from a mile away and u *****s didnt realize it...ur all being used by his propaganda machinery and u fall for it so wakeup guys!!