3 REASON why FLOYD is 1 STEP AHEAD of MANNY ARUM AND ROACH

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Barrera and Morales beat the crap out each other 3 times and where ready to be taken out, Marquez was indeed an A level opponent but I dont think Team Pacquiao realized that at the time. I think they though JMM would be an easier fight than Barrera, surprise, surprise.

We already know from the facts that whenever Freddie Roach signs Pac to fight someone they have a glaring weakness that Roach is looking to exploit. According to Roach, Diaz is slow, flat footed, short reach, Oscar can't pull the trigger, Hatton is just not that good, and Cotto is mentally done after Margarito. OH yeah, and lets weight drain the one's we can just to improve our chances.
Oh and in case you haven't read the homepage, according to Roach, we will swamp Clottey with activity, he is not active enough. But guess, all the real fans of the sport already know this, it doesn't even take a rocket science or great trainer to figure out any of Roach's strategies, just simply pick fighters who he thinks Pac can beat. As simple as that.

Good point about Roach but I think he says these things to hype the fight because Manny doesn't do much talking. As for the weight well there is not much I can say to defened this aspect but I guess he is still playing the small agnle. In hind site it gives you an advantage and you can get the other side to agree than why not?.....Lefty

[mazdaru]

great thread lefty

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

If Mosley wasn't in his prime when Cotto beat him then why was the fight so close? Are you saying Cotto beat an old man and wiped the floor with him? In regards to May-Mosley, I haven't given an assessment yet, all I said is that Mosley as of today, is still considered an A level fighter and the fighter with the best chance of beating Floyd. Like I said, the fight can be a rout in favor of Floyd, and Mosley will drop to a C level and so will Floyd's credit. However, it will still gain him all the momentum in regards to a Pac fight, assuming that will happen.

Listen Mosley is no longer a spring chicken but it is what it is in these days with the types of training and diets fighters are on they keep themselves in better sahep. All things considered Mosley had some time off inbetween his fights with Forrest and Winky and then taking on Vargas. he made a push back to the for front of the Division. To me I would love to put Mosley in a time machine and make him 28 again but that aint goign to happen. So going into the fight with this version of Mosley is fine by me. He is not broken or shot by any means. he may have lost a step in aspect of his foot speed but what he has gained as far as ring smarts and intelligence is not measureable. his hands are still hella fast and his power is still there. His punch resistance is awesome and he has a great corner man. I am excited about ths fight IF they sign it....Lefty

[fabie]

I agree but Like I said if the fight does not happen than people will look at the FACT HE WALKED AWAY FROM 40 MILLION BECAUSE HE WOULDNT GIVE BLOOD....Lefty

There's truth to what you have posted. But popular views are always misconstrued and I know that you are aware of this already.

Both fighters walked away from it if this fight won't ever happen. It is an agreement of both sides, not an indictment of the other based on one's predicament of the other, an accusation or allegation.

Mayweather could suggest but cannot enforce a random blood testing, that's all he can make. But what an important piece that he has brought up because this would pressure the NSAC to make it as a requirement from now on.

Likewise there is a cultural issue to this. We "westerners" take things as a matter of factly and really object oriented, nothing wrong with that but we have to also consider other culture's view on the issue of blood.

Not many people know Philippines is both a modern and of the antiquity in terms of matters of faith. And we see things here in the West from our perspective only.

Protocols and rules of engagements are the issue here that both sides doesn't see.

• Pacquiao sees Mayweather's demands as arrogant and disrespectful

• Mayweather sees Pacquiao's "refusal" as an admission of guilt

But Mayweather plays well with the media. He is a genius in terms of bringing up su****ions and getting anything towards his advantages. (one can also argue the same towards Pacquiao)

And so I am impartial when it comes to judgement or rather relatively more impartial. Mayweather throws some allegations...without proof. What to do?

It is a baiting tactic. But obviously didn't work with Pacquiao from a different mindset.

What we all fail to do is to objectify the issues only in our own psyche but fails to acknowledge the otherness.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Two things to keep in mind

-Was Cotto at his best?

-Cotto has a victory over Mosley

Just wondering how this fight compares to Pac v Cotto. Alot of people are saying that a Mosley win will give Mayweather an edge in negotiotions. TBH I'm just happy this fight might actually happen. Just wanted to get people's opinions. Is this a better/bigger fight than Pac v Cotto?

You cannot down play Manny victory of Cotto. It was a great performance in a fight many thought he would lose.

Yes Cotto does have a victory over Mosley but it was a very close fight and Mosley only started to put the pressure on after the 7th round. If he had fought that type of fight earlier it would have been a different story. Hind site is a beauty but I think it was a very hard fought close fight.

I think this fight has a lot more drama for fans who have been following the Mosley Mayweather stuff over the past few years it is the FIGHT THEY WANT TO SEE RIGHT NOW. For fans who watche Mosley and Mayweathe get it on after JMM fight they wanna see it. For the critics who say Mayweather only fights cherry picked opponents they wanna see it. So yes it is the bigger fight...Lefty

[project xxx1]

good post and a very intersting angle to look at things

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

There's truth to what you have posted. But popular views are always misconstrued and I know that you are aware of this already.

Both fighters walked away from it if this fight won't ever happen. It is an agreement of both sides, not an indictment of the other based on one's predicament of the other, an accusation or allegation.

Mayweather could suggest but cannot enforce a random blood testing, that's all he can make. But what an important piece that he has brought up because this would pressure the NSAC to make it as a requirement from now on.

Likewise there is a cultural issue to this. We "westerners" take things as a matter of factly and really object oriented, nothing wrong with that but we have to also consider other culture's view on the issue of blood.

Not many people know Philippines is both a modern and of the antiquity in terms of matters of faith. And we see things here in the West from our perspective only.

Protocols and rules of engagements are the issue here that both sides doesn't see.

• Pacquiao sees Mayweather's demands as arrogant and disrespectful

• Mayweather sees Pacquiao's "refusal" as an admission of guilt

But Mayweather plays well with the media. He is a genius in terms of bringing up su****ions and getting anything towards his advantages. (one can also argue the same towards Pacquiao)

And so I am impartial when it comes to judgement or rather relatively more impartial. Mayweather throws some allegations...without proof. What to do?

It is a baiting tactic. But obviously didn't work with Pacquiao from a different mindset.

What we all fail to do is to objectify the issues only in our own psyche but fails to acknowledge the otherness.

Yes but 10-20 years from now all the common man is going to remember is this part. Slice it anyway you like it for 40 million dollars some people would kill over it much less take a blood test. You cannot change my point of view no matter how thick your Pacquiao goggles are. I have given this some long hard thought and pretty much stayed away from the subject and flame wars about it but this is my thinking...Lefty

[CrackYourJaw]

It was very well played by Mayweather.

[Mr. Philadel]

IF Mayweather beat Mosley IF my man...Mosley aint no push over nor is he a blown up LW. Let us not just ASSUME he is going to win. Allbeit I think he is the favorite at this point and I am not dillusional about Mosley's chances but Mosley is going to test Floyd like he has never been tested before. But I will go with you scenario and say Mayeather bests Mosley in a good hard fight like I am expecting than yes mayweather makes for a better leverage at the bargaining table later on this year...Lefty

you can believe that my dude.....also ****m and Shane will be challenged to come up with the right game plan......NOBODY has it easy in this one!!.....this will be a dam good fight......and the 24/7 will be off the hook as well

[fabie]

Yes but 10-20 years from now all the common man is going to remember is this part. Slice it anyway you like it for 40 million dollars some people would kill over it much less take a blood test. You cannot change my point of view no matter how thick your Pacquiao goggles are. I have given this some long hard thought and pretty much stayed away from the subject and flame wars about it but this is my thinking...Lefty

"Common Man" in terms of the western world....yes, you are right. But like what I have said, what we think (as Westerners) is also partial. Ask the "Common Man" in Asia and they would tell you of a different story.

Here in the West, Money is the ultimate prize personified by Mayweather. In other countries MORALITY still rules. Not saying that we are immoral here but that is the predicament of social values, taboos and what nots from different consciousness.

That is why I like to see things as they are, not siding one way. I try to understand both.

And both sides have an argument or two.