Rank top 5 Welterweights!

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  • oc9979
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    #31
    Originally posted by madsweeney
    Cotto was #2. I'll take his word on weather or not he was drained (he said he felt great.) If you beat a ranked fighter, its very easy to argue that you took their rank.

    You included fighters that haven't fought ANYONE in that weight class in YEARS. How ironic that you say beating the #2 guy doesn't make you #2, but beating a ****ing LIGHTWEIGHT makes you #2!! lol
    so it is ok to put Mayweather as #2 P4P since he beat JMM and he was #2??

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    • BG_Knocc_Out
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      #32
      1.) Manny Pacquaio
      2.) Shane Mosley
      3.) Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
      4.) Joshua Clottey
      5.) Miguel Cotto

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      • madsweeney
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        #33
        Originally posted by Ray Dollars
        Mayweather can't be considered cos he hasn't fought a WW for a couple of years.
        Not only has not not fought any WW's for a couple years (or any of the current top 5, ever), every single WW he has fought aren't even ranked anymore.

        IMO, he can't be ranked until he actually has a win over any current top fighters.

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        • oc9979
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          #34
          Originally posted by David_TheMan
          Beating a lightweight didn't make Floyd number 2, his inactivity has made him #2 to Shane, who beat the man who was in the top stop after Floyd left. P-Wil did not leave WW by choice, if you remember he was frozen out by the likes of Cotto, Berto, Shane, and MArgarito. If he says he is back in at 147 he is automatically a #3 in my opinion, because of his body of work in the division compared to those not named Shane and Floyd. IF we include MArgo he is over both Manny and Cotto because Cotto's only WW fight was Cotto, the same Cotto who was destoryed by Margo. That leaves Manny at 5, which is more than fair considering the weight stipulations he put on a WW fight. If you take Margo out, I"ll move Manny up to 4.

          As for beating number 2 and becoming number 2, doesn't work that way. You work your way up in in the rankings by beating a collection of people in the division. You don't just jump up to number 2, because you beat the ranked 2 guy. You only skip everyone if you beat the man in the division, and thereby become the man in the division.
          Paul Williams body work at WW??
          Quintana 1-1
          Margarito

          Who else??

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          • baracuda
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            #35
            shane
            pac
            clottey
            cotto
            margo
            ........these same guys floyd would'nt fight for ****.

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            • madsweeney
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              #36
              Originally posted by oc9979
              so it is ok to put Mayweather as #2 P4P since he beat JMM and he was #2??
              P4P ranking is different, its based on boxing ability, not who's beaten who. With his skill and performances and reign up to his 18 month retirement and performance against JMM (even though it was a joke of a fight) easily puts him right back up there.

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              • zeidrich
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                #37
                1. mosley
                2. pac
                3. cotto
                4. clottey
                5. berto

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                • madsweeney
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by oc9979
                  Paul Williams body work at WW??
                  Quintana 1-1
                  Margarito

                  Who else??
                  What about PBF's body of work
                  Mitchel
                  Judah
                  Baldormir
                  Hatton

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                  • Lucky Luciano
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by baracuda
                    shane
                    pac
                    clottey
                    cotto
                    margo
                    ........these same guys floyd wouldn't fight for ****.
                    What this guy said. Floyd should not be ranked when he hasn't fought any of the top welters who have fought each other.

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                      #40
                      Mosley
                      Pacquiao
                      Cotto
                      Berto
                      Clottey

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