Why demand PED testing for the biggest fight in history?

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  • General Zod
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    #31
    Originally posted by GREEN GIANT
    "In the future, Sauerland wants to squeeze his boxers, the same program, which applies to Olympic athletes."

    from the summer abraham now has to go through oylimpic style tests for every fight put into his program.

    nice to see you using the links i gave you Agentsmith.

    also i believe tyson made Holyfield go through random testing because he was sure he was doping. he did ans passed.

    Pac would not be the only one to ever do this.
    Thanks for helping me out I was looking for quotes from the links to post. I'm out of green today will give you some next time I'm here.

    This was a thread I made a couple of days ago, testing for steroids didn't start in boxing until 2002.
    Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!
    Last edited by General Zod; 01-17-2010, 11:26 AM.

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    • AFighter4U
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      #32
      The fight is dead as of now. But IMO both parties are still open for further negotiations in the futures. I think no one is willing to pass this once in a life time opportunity without a fight.

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      • Maidana vs Rios
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        #33
        Originally posted by El Cabron
        that was Ricardo Mayorga that tested positive not Oscar
        My bad. I guess Oscar didn't test positive for Lidocaine. He just admitted to using it before the BHop fight.

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        • SteveJarvey
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          #34
          Originally posted by M.I.C.
          You are more into the fantasy than the reality
          Speaking of fantasy. *****s like you will need to discuss upcoming Floyd fights there Because in reality, Floyd will only duck top welterweights.

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          • BritishBoxing92
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            #35
            Originally posted by arraamis
            Here's a few points to consider:
            - The financial gains afforded to the winner would have been extremely broad and rewarding.
            - This was going to be the biggest fight in the history of the sport of boxing.
            - The winner would lay claim to the very best P4P in the world of boxing - In essence he would be on top of the world of boxing.


            When that much is on the line for a fight - there is significant motivation to use {Even if you never did before} PED's. Because if the stakes are great for a normal mega-fight, then the stakes for the fight between PBF vs Pacman would have been astronomical. The statement "I am the Very Best\Greatest" would be fitting from the moment of the last bell. This was no normal fight - this was "THE FIGHT" in boxing and everyone knew it. And once the final bell sounds - no one wants to have any su****ions that cheating was involved to get the win.

            This is why testing should have been accepted. Exactly because this was no normal mega-fight. Also, because the prize and accolades won from this fight will have been humongous and no one wants to be cheated out of that prize by the fight not being fought on a level playing field.

            Now many state that Mayweather had no business requesting Olympic Style Testing.

            Why not???


            Again this would be an historic fight of the era - One that would be talked about for decades. Why shouldn't extraordinary measures be employed to ensure that there is no foul play involved. Something that people miss in making this claim, is the magnitude of this kind of fight. We're talking Mega-Millions of dollars for all involved - plus the potential millions additional to be made by the winner. This would be the ultimate winner take all scenario in boxing.

            In this type of fight {One that many will not see again in their lifetime} nothing is out of bounds, when it comes to guaranteeing an equal and level playing field ..... Nothing.

            That's exactly why the 10 Million penalty demanded by Team Pacman, wasn't out of bounds when it was contracted. This fight would be just too big to exclude any demand that would give either fighter an edge.

            And this basic point is missed by many, when they try to support their silly arguments against PED testing in this kind of fight. You cannot deploy normal standards to a fight of this magnitude. The stakes were just too great!!!!!!

            So, IMHO - Floyd had every right to demand extreme testing, just as much right as Pacman had every right to demand penalties of 10 million per pound.

            The overall point: The biggest fight in history demanded extreme measures be taken to ensure a fair fight.

            So, the arguments need to STOP - this was no ordinary fight, it was an extraordinary fight and extraordinary measures to ensure fair play were needed and required.
            even though i dont like floyd in anyway or support him, and that i wanted pac man to win this fight maybe he wanted to make the fight level, for e.g. if manny was on steroids (even though we know hes not) floyd might not have wanted to get beaten by a man who was using illegal supplements....you gotta look at both sides stories

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            • M.I.C.
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              #36
              Originally posted by SteveJarvey
              Fight was on its way to be official, until Floyd decided he is bigger than boxing
              Haven't we already learned it was in the contract from the beginning or u just slow

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              • General Zod
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                #37
                Originally posted by Splackavellie
                My bad. I guess Oscar didn't test positive for Lidocaine. He just admitted to using it before the BHop fight.
                Dude where are you going with this?

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                • GREEN GIANT
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Agentsmith
                  Thanks for helping me out I was looking for quotes from the links to post. I'm out of green today will give you some next time I'm here.

                  This was a thread I made a couple of days ago, testing for steroids didn't start in boxing until 2002.
                  http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=347908
                  Good article and im not surprised. Even then it not like they were strict on what was banned. To many people who tend took look the other way for the sake of money in this sport.

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                  • thatnickuh
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by SteveJarvey
                    Fight was on its way to be official, until Floyd decided he is bigger than boxing and demanded a change in drug testing
                    Typical ignorant non-reality based response from an irrational groupie. Why don't you try educating yourself on the facts of the matter instead of making yourself look ******?

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                    • SteveJarvey
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by M.I.C.
                      Haven't we already learned it was in the contract from the beginning or u just slow
                      No way, PAC's team wouldve disagreed outrightly. Have you seen the contract


                      err, by the way, who is Floyd looking to fight now ? Fighting a lightweight and Killing the fight with PAC certainly wasnt the comeback you would expect from a self-proclaimed P4P king

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