When it comes down to it, Pacquiao agreed to the EXTRA testing Floyd requested

[Vasyl’s dad]

No she didn't but let her try to do it now with the testing procedures that are in place.

Why didn't she?

[Lead Cenobite]

I'm done with you dude.

You said no one had written about it before this mess - I provided two articles mentioning it (BTW, there are many more if you would google YOURSELF).

Then you accused me of being a Floyd fan and ran off. Go sell your BS elsewhere. You have no interest in a healthy debate, just bashing Floyd. That's fine - I'm all for it. Just not on this topic.

This guy is a typical *******ed clown. No big shock. He's avoided every logical point on this thread as per usual.

[Championart]

Julio Cesar Chavez disagrees with you.



The thing you're not getting is this,

I'm not against better standards at all. But I'm not going to act like its been a major thorn in my fanship because quite frankly, even as other boxers have been caught, its never been a major issue to me.

My problem stems from the timing of
a. the accusations made
b. the demands made because of the accusations
where the accusations are coming from in regards to a fighter who has a history of making excuses of why he shouldn't fight certain people
c. the way the whole issue was approached.
d. the representatives of said fighter steadfastly refused this type of testing when the shoe was on the other foot.



Again, if boxing itself proceeds to follow through with more stringent testing, I'm all for it.

But don't come at me and say its about the fairness of the sport when the fighter the demands are coming from, hasn't been fair to his opponent in just his last fight, and said fighter has a history of excuses pertaining to certain fighters.

And Pac is the holy grail of boxing that is so FAIR to his opponents by weight draining them and having them put up their belts at weight limits that the belts aren't for smh.

[Lead Cenobite]

And Pac is the holy grail of boxing that is so FAIR to his opponents by weight draining them and having them put up their belts at weight limits that the belts aren't for smh.

It's fair when Pac weight drains people and then gets BELTS for it even though the belt weights are greater than the contract fight weight. Cause he's special and stuff.

[Championart]

Why didn't she?

Because the testing procedures being used then weren't up to par with the designer drugs that were used back then. That situation has changed dramatically since then.

[dans]

Did Marion Jones ever test positive for steroids when she was competing in the Olympics?

Good counter point. Interesting too.

But with that said, how can less testing be more effective than more testing? Even if the select few get through with Olympic style testing, wouldn't you imagine that many MORE get by with the testing currently done in Nevada and other states.

[horge]

Burner just posted an entire thread in NSB providing links and everything.

Okay, I found it. Only one link is worth considering:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/mma/boxing/01/08/pacquiao.clottey/index.html

It has Blob sending Koncz an email January 1st, regarding
the 14 day angle (it just about coincides with when the 24/7
footage thing got floated), to which Koncz emailed back
that he'd asked Manny but got a 'no'. This also matches up
with when the unusually articulate statement in English
"from Manny" got posted on his website, stating his firm
demand for 30 days... just like Blob originally demanded

This was not a week after Pac said for the second time, on
video, that "basta huwag naman sa araw ng laban", or
48 hours!!

The sudden change doesn't make sense, and I think Koncz
and Arum are spinning this to blame Manny for their own
blunder... although Arum in the same interview seems to
realize he's on dangerous ground and admits HE'S to blame.

I think Schaefer's right: Manny wasn't told until after the
arbitration failed, but I certainly don't blame Floyd partisans
for buying this "Bob says Koncz said Manny said no" tale.... lol.

h.

[Championart]

It's fair when Pac weight drains people and then gets BELTS for it even though the belt weights are greater than the contract fight weight. Cause he's special and stuff.

I guess so man because the things that they give him major passes for other athletes would be crucified for.

[Left Banned Tua]

I agree with you!!

actually larios fought fights at 130 when pac was still at 112.

i think larios has fought fights at 135 before fighting pac 130 too.

larios is not a small guy.

when you watch larios-pacquiao , you don't think to yourself why is pacquiao fighting such a small opponent.

larios was actually bigger than pacquiao.

[renren40]

Meeting 24 days in not in the middle. Meeting 14 days in the middle.

Meeting in the middle was when Pac said 50/50 purse. Everything mayweather request is trash because he is just a contender. He is not the p4p king. Manny is.