When it comes down to it, Pacquiao agreed to the EXTRA testing Floyd requested

[Lead Cenobite]

Do you really want to go down a line of excuses Floyd has made in 5 years?

I don't think so.

Btw, still waiting for a link to all your past articles where you said you cared about drug testing policies.


Bottom line,

Floyd could have had this fight if he really wanted. But just like Margarito, Cotto and Shane,

he passed.

How did he pass? The logic is just ******ed.

PAC REFUSED THE FIGHT. Moron.

[madsweeney]

you know what? when it comes down to it, its just another great fight that somehow, for one reason or another, didn't happen for floyd


if it was the very first time, that floyd has caused us to miss a great fight, he gets a pass...but with so many names in his era that he didn't fight, serves him right to get ****ted on...he IS the common denominator in all those fights not happening[/SIZE]

Can you type that a little bigger please

[THE REED]

Those links are pretty damning.

It's funny cause Reed is a known Floyd hater and even he knows Pac looks ******ed in this.

I just called Floyd like I see it.... Haters are people who wont give credit no matter WHAT happens.

If Floyd fights Pac or Shane, or Paul, or anyone CREDIBLE... than he WOULD get credit from me.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yeah that's what you think it was . reality was it was a bluff and Pac made himself look like an *******. But your tortilla is blinding you.

Pac TKO Cotto 12
Pac v Clottey March

Floyd UD Marquez
Floyd vs Campbell


What we see from the evidence, is one man moves up and takes on fighters in the same weight division.

Another cat moves up, and brings up fighters from 2 divisions lower.



I seriously doubt its Pac whos making himself look like an *******.

[IMDAZED]

Do you really want to go down a line of excuses Floyd has made in 5 years?

I don't think so.

Huh? Do you mistake me for a Floyd fan or something? Do you think I care?

Btw, still waiting for a link to all your past articles where you said you cared about drug testing policies.

Really? Because I posted a bunch and then you ran off the thread. All while I was waiting for proof of how I was a *****. If you don't mind, I'll search for the link to that thread. Stick around this time, ok?

Bottom line, Floyd could have had this fight if he really wanted. But just like Margarito, Cotto and Shane,

he passed.

Huh?

[Lead Cenobite]

Pac TKO Cotto 12
Pac v Clottey March

Floyd UD Marquez
Floyd vs Campbell


What we see from the evidence, is one man moves up and takes on fighters in the same weight division.

Another cat moves up, and brings up fighters from 2 divisions lower.



I seriously doubt its Pac whos making himself look like an *******.

In regards to not taking a blood test? Certainly.

I never have doubted Pac in the ring or who he takes on.

[Hijo de Dios]

Another cat moves up, and brings up fighters from 2 divisions lower.

Pac UD Larios.



I seriously think its Pac whos making himself look like an *******.

I agree with you!!

[Vasyl’s dad]

Marquez came up 7 pounds and looked sluggish, and a bit over weight. When Pac fought marquez he looked exactly the same as he did against DLH.

Regardless I've never thought Pac was juicing, until he did everything in his power to avoid the random tests.

what is the point of this post?

We've seen time and time again, Pac was rehydrating to the high 130s to mid 140s for years now.


You cats act like he suddenly jumped from 112 to 140 in a year.

He didn't.

[Vasyl’s dad]

They're going to respond with:

Who cares?

Floyd's a punk.

So what?

Etc.

Funny thing is, I'm not even a Floyd apologist. But what's right is right.

Whats right is right,


so why not just fight number 41, like all of the other 40?

You still can't name the basis for this testing in the first place.

There were no words being written or printed in any year other than the last 6 weeks of 08 regarding Pac and PEDs.

Or, can you anonymously go find them for us and post them?

[horge]

Paquiao's bad experience with having blood drawn was more then just having blood drawn. He had to make 130 lbs and that wasn't an easy task. This was the day before the weigh in and he didn't want to go over. So he didn't eat, he was suppose to have dinner with Sanchez. He instead went to sleep. The difference is Pacquiao doesn't have to worry about making 147 because he's hitting the weigh in at 143. He can easily regain a teaspoon of blood. This Pacquiao fully understands.

I'm surprised at the fact that people buy into Pacquiao's lame excuses. We're smarter then that, we all are. He's pretty much lying to our faces.

It doesn't matter how you or I rationalize it.

Eveyone has IRRATIONAL beliefs; and it's worse when they
seem to have been reinforced by actual experience.

Pac was blaming his fucking SOCKS
for the Marquez draw, lol!!!! Try convincing him to wear the
same brand again... everyone has ****** claims and beliefs.

BOTTOM LINE, then:

Floyd had an arguably-irrational demand for blood testing up
to fight night itself. He did not bend that fucling demand until
the deal had gone irrevocably dead for a mid-March fight.

Pac had an arguably-irrational aversion to blood testing, period.
He compromised by agreeing in principle to random tests, but
stipulated a cutoff. He'd compromised on blood before, in the
Hatton fight, and that provided a useful benchmark for a cutoff.

Check out the timeline:
In late December Arum and his assigns were the only ones allowed
to deal with Team Mayweather's reps, and Arum wanted 30 days.
Out of desire to save the fight, Pac and Roach made some very
public comments:

In late December, Roach indicated 5 days ought to be enough,
but that Pac had a psychological aversion. It was no lie.

Also in late December, Pac said twice that 48 hours was the utter
minimum cutoff he'd survive. Arum and Koncz put a gag on that
****, and "Pac" posted an unusually articulate statement on his
website, suddenly toeing Arum's 30 day line. Pac and Arum still
aren't too friendly since then, is what I'm hearing.

Then you had the lie about the Pac-Hatton 24/7 video, and also
the failed arbitration, where Arum's no longer saying 30, but 24
days, which happens to match the true date of the 24/7 footage.

It was a circus of lies and misunderstandings, but if 14 days was
acceptable from the start, it shouldn't have been offered so late,
it should have been offered very publicly, after Pac and Roach had
as-publicly floated 5/2 days.

Fight would have been signed with a 7 day cutoff, but because it
was more about mind games, about showing who was boss, than
about making the fight, it died.

Horge, I'll be waiting...

If you expect more, or different, you can keep on waiting.


h.