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  • -MAKAVELLI-
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    #111
    Originally posted by Horus
    The Lakers play the Clippers this weds.
    how important is that game to you?

    i would love for you too call in and take the same stances you take on the board on live air.



    pau gasol and ron artest are on the bench...we're about to embark on a brutal road trip in january with the trip ending in boston...EVERY game is crucial right now...i'll be at the bar...how about doin a thursday show?

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    • Horus
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      #112
      Originally posted by Xeraser
      Floyd's demands are unnecessary. Pac already agreed to random urine test and a blood test right after the fight. That is sufficient enough.

      30-40 million might be a lot of money but for someone like Pac, the principle of not giving Floyd's the satisfaction of treating him like a cheater is priceless.
      Like I said before,

      Originally posted by Horus
      You can not understand it, because you do not want to understand it.

      Ask your yourself, In an era of Steroids and (PED) usaged. you must understand why there is never a good explanation for turning down the best available drug test to ensure the public and your opponent that you are willing to be held to the highest standards of the sport.

      How can you honestly say, that there should be no skepticism about Pacquiao when every reason he gave for not wanting to participate in random testing with Mayweather has been depunked...????

      Ask yourself question,
      Why turned Down 30-40 million dollars when all is required is a random test?

      Because you are afraid of needles?
      Because you are afraid of having blood drawn 30 days before a fight?

      What routine other than doping would a random blood test dramatically interupt that is worth 30-40 million dollars?
      Oh I get it, now it is about pride and feelings being hurt?

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      • Lady Fan
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        #113
        This Ends All Speculation and Rumors regarding Pacman's alleged Steroid Use.
        PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND UNDERSTAND!:


        This article is based on this (facts)


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        USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

        Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:

        A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

        No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

        It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.

        There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

        Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

        Last edited by Lady Fan; 01-04-2010, 03:29 AM.

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        • Horus
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          #114
          Originally posted by Makavelli
          pau gasol and ron artest are on the bench...we're about to embark on a brutal road trip in january with the trip ending in boston...EVERY game is crucial right now...i'll be at the bar...how about doin a thursday show?
          I work too late on thrus.

          How about you choose a show Mon,Wed,Fri. and tell me what day you are going to call in. and I will make sure to come on when you do.

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            #115
            Originally posted by Horus
            I work too late on thrus.

            How about you choose a show Mon,Wed,Fri. and tell me what day you are going to call in. and I will make sure to come on when you do.


            wait, what do you mean you'll 'come on'...dont you run the show? you moderate and make sure i get 10 unmuted, uncensored minutes to rant...

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            • Xeraser
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              #116
              Originally posted by Horus
              Like I said before,



              Oh I get it, now it is about pride and feelings being hurt?
              If Floyd take off his unnecessary demands, the fight will be made. On second thought, Floyd will do what he does best.

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              • Horus
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                #117
                Originally posted by Makavelli
                wait, what do you mean you'll 'come on'...dont you run the show? you moderate and make sure i get 10 unmuted, uncensored minutes to rant...
                Come weds, and i will give you your 10 minutes.
                On Mondays Lefty moderates, and on friday Burner Moderates.
                They do a great job, so i will not interupt what they are doing.

                but if you really want to debate this, let me know and I will make sure you get a fair shake.

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                • Horus
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Xeraser
                  If Floyd take off his unnecessary demands, the fight will be made.
                  Since when is being held to the highest standard possible unnecessary?

                  Shouldnt Manny want to prove to the world and his opponent that he is more than willing to be particpate along with Mayweather in the best drug test in the world. The very same drug test olympics athletes use when representing their country.

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                  • -MAKAVELLI-
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Horus
                    Come weds, and i will give you your 10 minutes.
                    On Mondays Lefty moderates, and on friday Burner Moderates.
                    They do a great job, so i will not interupt what they are doing.

                    but if you really want to debate this, let me know and I will make sure you get a fair shake.



                    lefty is my peeps...i'd try to get on his show...burner is a dip****...what would we be debating again?

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                    • Horus
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Makavelli
                      lefty is my peeps...i'd try to get on his show...burner is a dip****...what would we be debating again?
                      Mayweather vs. Pacquiao (drug testing)

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