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  • Xeraser
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    #131
    Originally posted by Horus
    thats why we need random test. To stop epo users like mosley
    And here we again, Pac already agreed to random urine test even from the get go.

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    • el malo
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      #132
      Originally posted by Xeraser
      And here we again, Pac already agreed to random urine test even from the get go.
      But not blood ******. It will weaken him.

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      • Xeraser
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        #133
        Originally posted by elmalo29
        But not blood ******. It will weaken him.
        That's unnecessary. what's your point?

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        • Horus
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          #134
          Originally posted by LAPIDA
          If Mayweather's intention is to really ensure that there is a fair fight, why then he did not require this kind of more stringent anti-doping test requirements when he fought Corrales, JMM, ODLH and even Hatton??? If you can answer that truthfully, then i will listen to your radio station day after day after day, but i guess your guess is just as good as mine.
          The same reason Pacquiao didnt ask for 10 million per pound for cotto, hatton, de lahoya, and others.

          To put it simply, to prevent Pacquiao of doing something he might do, or might be doing.

          and vice vesa. for Pacquiao to prevent Mayweather of doing something he might do.


          And Mayweather demand has actually put more focus on a key issue in boxing which is better drug test. and Morally, mayweather has the high ground.

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          • Sir Tom Jones
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            #135
            Originally posted by Allucard
            He refuses to test randomly. This argument is flawed of course but gold compared to anything *******s have made up because it's actually true, Pacquiao turned down 30 million and tried to negotiate penalties and the chance to keep things quiet if he was caught.
            Proof?

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            • LAPIDA
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              #136
              Originally posted by Horus
              The same reason Pacquiao didnt ask for 10 million per pound for cotto, hatton, de lahoya, and others.

              To put it simply, to prevent Pacquiao of doing something he might do, or might be doing.

              and vice vesa. for Pacquiao to prevent Mayweather of doing something he might do.


              And Mayweather demand has actually put more focus on a key issue in boxing which is better drug test. and Morally, mayweather has the high ground.
              The same reason Pacquiao didnt ask for 10 million per pound for cotto, hatton, de lahoya, and others.

              Now, that's semantics. Cotto, Hatton, ODLH and others did not exceed their agreed weight when they fought Pacman.

              Mayweather bullied his way to victory against JMM, who came up 2 weights division to face Mayweather. There was precedence already. Remember, Mayweather is a natural junior middleweight.

              And Mayweather demand has actually put more focus on a key issue in boxing which is better drug test. and Morally, mayweather has the high ground.

              Mayweather's intention to bring boxing integrity to a higher level is good but the motive is bad. Think of this. Apply the law to everyone, or don't apply it at all. Apply the more rigid testing like Boxing NGB requirements as covered by USADA/WADA to every professional boxing covered by NSAC, or don't apply it at all. You are like changing the rules in the middle of the game. I agree with you, it is more moral but masking it through the proposal of Mayweather is outright ridiculous knowing they all do it for the love of money.
              Last edited by LAPIDA; 01-04-2010, 04:53 AM. Reason: space only

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              • Xeraser
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                #137
                Originally posted by Horus
                The same reason Pacquiao didnt ask for 10 million per pound for cotto, hatton, de lahoya, and others.

                To put it simply, to prevent Pacquiao of doing something he might do, or might be doing.

                and vice vesa. for Pacquiao to prevent Mayweather of doing something he might do.


                And Mayweather demand has actually put more focus on a key issue in boxing which is better drug test. and Morally, mayweather has the high ground.
                I agree, there should be a better drug test in boxing. But still Floyd's demands are unnecessary. Floyd need the fight more than Pac, so hopefully he can give up his unnecessary demands and give the fight fans want to see.

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                • LAPIDA
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Xeraser
                  I agree, there should be a better drug test in boxing. But still Floyd's demands are unnecessary. Floyd need the fight more than Pac, so hopefully he can give up his unnecessary demands and give the fight fans want to see.
                  If PBF is really in this crusade to bring the integrity of boxing to a new higher level, he should go first to NSAC to petition them in changing their rules and procedures on Anti-Doping requirements and not just mandate it on a negotiation as an addendum and use that issue as a leverage or as a bargaining chip.

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                  • Eagle Eye
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Horus
                    The same reason Pacquiao didnt ask for 10 million per pound for cotto, hatton, de lahoya, and others.

                    To put it simply, to prevent Pacquiao of doing something he might do, or might be doing.

                    and vice vesa. for Pacquiao to prevent Mayweather of doing something he might do.


                    And Mayweather demand has actually put more focus on a key issue in boxing which is better drug test. and Morally, mayweather has the high ground.
                    1. Do you really think asking from Floyd for a penalty per pound may be logically equated with Pac failing to ask Cotto, ODLH and Hatton considering Floyd's previous fight with JMM? I mean Cotto, ODLH and Hatton did not have a history of coming in above the contracted weight? Are they really similarly situated?

                    2. Is the what you referred to as a "key issue" in boxing a new issue?

                    In my opinion, the penalty for coming in above the contracted weight is a regular/ normal issue that is being negotiated by the parties..It has its precedents...

                    Is the demand for a drug test whether in a regular manner i.e NSAC or USADA a regular/ normal subject of negotiations?

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                    • FightFreak
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      The same reason Pacquiao didnt ask for 10 million per pound for cotto, hatton, de lahoya, and others.

                      To put it simply, to prevent Pacquiao of doing something he might do, or might be doing.

                      and vice vesa. for Pacquiao to prevent Mayweather of doing something he might do.


                      And Mayweather demand has actually put more focus on a key issue in boxing which is better drug test. and Morally, mayweather has the high ground.
                      Mayweather has the moral high ground in this issue? His camp deliberately undermined the name of the world's most popular boxer who has NEVER tested positive in any drug test -- without any proof whatsoever -- and he has the moral high ground?

                      And quit arguing your Mosley ****. We both know Mosley tested negative for particular PEDs at a time when the NSAC was not yet testing for them. It tests them for those now. For those who might be misled by this dip****, look up the Keith Kizer interview on the Net to verify.

                      This ***** is not just blind, he's deliberately misleading people to support an agenda to destroy Pac's character.

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