Should Pacquiao Undergo Extensive Drug Testing To Clear His Name? (Video/Poll)

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  • MindBat
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    #61
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the USADA random drug test involve approximately 20 urine tests and approximately 3 blood tests of which only a teaspoon of blood would be drawn from each fighter?

    That is my current understanding.

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    • Allucard
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      #62
      Originally posted by BoxCleva
      IMO he'd clear his name so no one would even be able to question his legacy in the future, no one could question whether he was using PED's. And he'd be the first boxer to undergo these tests so it would be an historical event. He might even change the way testing is conducted in boxing. Considering his political future, imagine how positively that would reflect on him if he could effect boxing politics before he effects national politics. It would be a good thing overall for Pacquiao and for boxing imo.
      Yet another good reason Pacquiao should accept the random testing. Man the only reason i can think of Pacquiao would turn 30 million down, plus the factors mentioned by the TS, is that he could... well i don't want to think about it. I hope he's clean but now there is only one way to go Pac. lawsuits won't save your reputation but RANDOM blood testing can.

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      • MindBat
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        #63
        I believe Arum and Team Pacquiao would have saved everyone's time by clearly stating ALL of Manny's aversions to having blood drawn at random before and after the fight instead of letting it drag out this far.

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        • whirlwind
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          #64
          Originally posted by BoxCleva
          Whoever his next opponent may be, do you believe Manny Pacquiao should still undergo extensive drug testing throughout the duration of his next training camp in order to clear his name indisputably?

          Why single out Pac? That's the problem with here. Pac never been caught and always passed the test use by NSAC and that's includes Mayweather. Why not all the boxers from now on be subjected to this kind of testing? Why single out Pac just because Floyd said he's doping without any hint of evidence to back up his accusation he will submit to Floyd demands just to prove his innocence?

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          • cherokee
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            #65
            I voted for NO

            but I would say if NSAC updates their screening method then I don't see any reason why PAC won't agree and he wouldn't

            And should be applied across the board not just to single out one player with no history of drugs.

            If we allow one player to demand his way then when will it stop?

            and for the record NO, manny does not HAVE get tested to clear his name because he never refused to be get tested anyway. this is just a a spin that mayweather concocted to fool the general public

            I have been reading blogs saying manny is refusing random blood and urine test and that Manny does not want to be tested AT ALL! Nice work Mayweathers!

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            • cherokee
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              #66
              Originally posted by Allucard
              Yet another good reason Pacquiao should accept the random testing. Man the only reason i can think of Pacquiao would turn 30 million down, plus the factors mentioned by the TS, is that he could... well i don't want to think about it. I hope he's clean but now there is only one way to go Pac. lawsuits won't save your reputation but RANDOM blood testing can.
              i partly agree! but random blood testing is so associated with Mayweather's demand and smear campaign that Pac will now stand his ground

              the random testing that NSAC required the other day was so random, nobody expected it, no contract is even signed yet. And did PAC object? No. NSAC ruling you see. If Mayweather demanded for it PAC would probably provide a sample of a dog piss. I'm exaggerating of course but you know what I mean!

              Mayweather's camp has really angered him so much now, no going back

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              • Red_Menace
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                #67
                Originally posted by cherokee
                i partly agree! but random blood testing is so associated with Mayweather's demand and smear campaign that Pac will now stand his ground

                the random testing that NSAC required the other day was so random, nobody expected it, no contract is even signed yet. And did PAC object? No. NSAC ruling you see. If Mayweather demanded for it PAC would probably provide a sample of a dog piss. I'm exaggerating of course but you know what I mean!

                Mayweather's camp has really angered him so much now, no going back
                This is a good example of the difference between NSAC and USADA. The NSAC told Pac they were going to collect the sample and gave him time to make arrangements. The USADA would just show up on his doorstep and demand the sample.

                The reason is this, and it's really gross. I read cyclists were filling their bladders with clean urine to pass tests. I don't even want to know how they got it in there. So they have the people arrive randomly and, also importantly, unannounced. I'll try to find the link where I read about filling bladders again, but I have to sleep now.

                Basically the agent that comes to collect the sample watches you pee to make sure you're actually peeing the sample and not pouring it out of some kind of container, and they arrive unannounced so you won't have time to fill your bladder with clean urine.

                ****ing gross, but that is what professional sports have come to.

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                • BoxCleva
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by whirlwind
                  Why single out Pac? That's the problem with here. Pac never been caught and always passed the test use by NSAC and that's includes Mayweather. Why not all the boxers from now on be subjected to this kind of testing? Why single out Pac just because Floyd said he's doping without any hint of evidence to back up his accusation he will submit to Floyd demands just to prove his innocence?
                  It's not something that should be limited to Pacquiao, it should be adopted by all the commissions unanimously and apply to all pro boxers in the future. But that would take time to implement, it has to start somewhere and someone has to lead the way.

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                  • imscythe
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by BoxCleva
                    It's not something that should be limited to Pacquiao, it should be adopted by all the commissions unanimously and apply to all pro boxers in the future. But that would take time to implement, it has to start somewhere and someone has to lead the way.
                    Yeah if the demands is done by majority of boxers to implement this kind of testing and not just Mayweather or NSAC applies this kind of testing. Pacquiao has rights too, since they're clearly singling him out, there are other fights already set for 2010 but this testing was not even implemented.

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                    • renren40
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Allucard
                      The key word is and always was RANDOM. It's been beaten to death, everything can clear out of someone's body in hours...
                      Yeah dude he agreed to Random piss tests. That is more than what NSAC needs.

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