USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

[Red_Menace]

there's no gray area in the doctor's statement. it is not an effective way. No harm done in taking highly irregular testing? Lemme see. If Pac submits himself to Mayweather-style tests, he can be asked to wake up an ungodly hours for several days during his intense training camp to give blood.

WiIll you expect him to be 100% on the day of the fight?

Nope. Pacquiao is right not to say yes to the Mayweather-style tests that defy even USADA norms.

The guy who wrote the article said "not effective." The quote in the article from the USADA is this:

"Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition."

To be most effective. So, yes, doing the blood testing during their training camp would be less effective. Doesn't mean it isn't worth doing.

Whatever happens to Pac happens to Mayweather. There is no competitive advantage. My understanding is they do not wake people up in the middle of their sleep. Maybe I'm wrong. Surely not every test would happen at 3am. To be honest, if it happened once or twice, I think that would be a pretty ****** reason to call of this fight. Like I said, the playing field is equal.

Who said the tests are defying USADA norms? USADA does random testing 365 days a year, which can be either blood or urine.

[DarthVoid]

If the NSAC is so great how come they never caught Mosley and Holyfield?That tell`s people with common sense that the standard for testing should be changed.But *******s like you don`t want that to apply to your god Pacquiao cause ya`ll love the illusion that Pacquiao give`s out.

You're using the NSAC as a red herring, troll. This thread is about the USADA.

Get in line.

[takler]

For those who still believe: Pac's "Testing before 30days and immediately after" = cheating

is a 100% chimpanzee way of thinking.

That was Pacman's way if reaching out for the sake of the March 13 fight! That's not ducking.

[sNiTcH]

USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:


A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

Reposting it seems that the ***** swing the topic

[Imhotep]

*****s arent that many lol..

Even the guy in your avatar want`s Pac to take the test or he`s gonna be su****ious.As a matter of fact he already is.

[Red_Menace]

Yes, i agree but the thing is, even the USADA said that this blood test is not really recommended it is just the mayweathers that are demanding all these ****. Do you know why this **** happens? its because of that crackheads accusation on pac.

So if that is the case, you believe more on what this Crackhead Sr. is saying rather than the USADA... you really think pac is on riods?

If mayweather Sr. will say that tomorrow will be the end of the world i bet you're the first one that will go hiding on those caves!

Ok, so Pac should take the tests and prove them wrong. The tests are harmless.

Honestly, I don't know if Pac is on cheating, and I couldn't care less about the Mayweathers.

I think this type of drug testing should be done for every fight, and this happened to be the first fight that could have had it.

[Imhotep]

Reposting it seems that the ***** swing the topic

So Pacquiao has nothing to be afraid of.So he should take the random test to prove he`s not on something or else it shows he`s on something.Floyd is taking the same test so Their wont be any advantages.

[DarthVoid]

The guy who wrote the article said "not effective." The quote in the article from the USADA is this:

"Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition."

To be most effective. So, yes, doing the blood testing during their training camp would be less effective. Doesn't mean it isn't worth doing.

Whatever happens to Pac happens to Mayweather. There is no competitive advantage. My understanding is they do not wake people up in the middle of their sleep. Maybe I'm wrong. Surely not every test would happen at 3am. To be honest, if it happened once or twice, I think that would be a pretty ****** reason to call of this fight. Like I said, the playing field is equal.

Who said the tests are defying USADA norms? USADA does random testing 365 days a year, which can be either blood or urine.

are we arguing now on what effective and not effective means?

If we are to follow your train of thought but still focused on the best way to weed out possible doping use, doesnt common sense say that the best and most effective way be used - which is out-of-competition, at least 30 days before the fight?

Testing in-competition defies USADA norms.

[HighFlyer]

Even the guy in your avatar want`s Pac to take the test or he`s gonna be su****ious.As a matter of fact he already is.

i like cotto's way/style of fighting not his thoughts..
i cant blame him if he still have bitterness from his lost

[DarthVoid]

So Pacquiao has nothing to be afraid of.So he should take the random test to prove he`s not on something or else it shows he`s on something.Floyd is taking the same test so Their wont be any advantages.

Tell Mayweather to follow NSAC and USADA testing norms.