Why no fights for Tavoris Cloud?

[Boxingwizard]

Dawson is a no name himself so you're entire argument is invalid. Dawson has no fan base, which is why big names like Hopkins wont give him the time of day. Dawsons options at LHW are litterally Pascal and Cloud. That's it. If he wants to weight drain himself to 168 that's all fine and dandy, but a young guy like hismelf should unify the belts and create a name for himself, not chase big money fights so early. Do what bernard hopkins did - unify the belts, keep winning and eventually the big names come.

Further, Dawson at 168...what is he going to do? The super six guys are locked in place for at least another year and what makes you think Lucian Bute would fight dawson when he can take a couple easy fights and wait for the winner of the super six? Dawson cant land any of the big names at 168 right now, maybe in over a year he could but not anytime soon.

He does have a fan base, he was getting a lot of hype in the U.K when many people wanted to see a Dawson vs Calzaghe match. Dawson has fans in Asia too. He's very popular among boxing fans, but he's not popular with the casual crowd because he hasn't beaten anybody that fans recognize. Also he's not a very active boxer, which is the best way to win over casual fans.

[Boxingwizard]

Dawson can always fight Garbiel Campillo for the WBA belt.

[Iceta]

Dawson can always fight Garbiel Campillo for the WBA belt.

I don't know who that guy is. I've heard about Nathan Cleverly though.

[Boxingwizard]

I don't know who that guy is. I've heard about Nathan Cleverly though.

He's the WBA LHW champion.

[ИATAS]

But after he fights and lets say he beats those 2....there is really nothing left if he can't physically go up or down in weight. He would just have nothing to do because B-hop I presume will be gone by the time it would make $ense for him to fight Dawson.

New stars will emerge though and smaller guys will inevitably move up in weight. Again, going back to bhop, look what he did - 20 title defenses. That's greatness. But before he got to greatness he had to fight a lot of small named guys and mandatories before he got the big money fights. Dawson, like hopkins back then, has a very small group of fans, for whatever the reasons, so he should (imo) focus on becoming great, rather than chasing the big money fights. It will help his career in the long run.

[Boxingwizard]

New stars will emerge though and smaller guys will inevitably move up in weight. Again, going back to bhop, look what he did - 20 title defenses. That's greatness. But before he got to greatness he had to fight a lot of small named guys and mandatories before he got the big money fights. Dawson, like hopkins back then, has a very small group of fans, for whatever the reasons, so he should (imo) focus on becoming great, rather than chasing the big money fights.

Yup he's a hypocrite, he claims that he's willing to fight anyone, but he makes himself hard to negotiate with. That's what I can't stand about him.

[Marcov]

Seems the best thing for Cloud right now is stay busy and active while he waits. If he's in the ring, he's in the gym and that is where all fighters need to be.

[daggum]

cloud should just retire. he's undefeated. an all time great. nothing more to prove really. what's beating 20 mario veits really gonna do for ya? call it a day and get on some dancing with the stars show.

[ИATAS]

cloud should just retire. he's undefeated. an all time great. nothing more to prove really. what's beating 20 mario veits really gonna do for ya? call it a day and get on some dancing with the stars show.

yeah but if he can beat holyfield in a few years from now he'll be in the top 10 atg