Why no fights for Tavoris Cloud?

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  • Spray_resistant
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    #21
    Originally posted by ИATAS206
    Dawson is a no name himself so you're entire argument is invalid. Dawson has no fan base, which is why big names like Hopkins wont give him the time of day. Dawsons options at LHW are litterally Pascal and Cloud. That's it. If he wants to weight drain himself to 168 that's all fine and dandy, but a young guy like hismelf should unify the belts and create a name for himself, not chase big money fights so early. Do what bernard hopkins did - unify the belts, keep winning and eventually the big names come.

    Further, Dawson at 168...what is he going to do? The super six guys are locked in place for at least another year and what makes you think Lucian Bute would fight dawson when he can take a couple easy fights and wait for the winner of the super six?
    Him doing nothing and waiting on winners of title eliminators isn't helping him at this point.....he needs to stay active and fight tuneups at the very least so ppl don't just forget about him.

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    • street bully
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      #22
      Johnson vs Cloud would be a barnburner.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        Him doing nothing and waiting on winners of title eliminators isn't helping him at this point.....he needs to stay active and fight tuneups at the very least so ppl don't just forget about him.
        Same can be said for Dawson.

        Again though, Dawson has two options at this point - pascal or cloud.

        I know if he'd have to choose he'd go for pascal cuz he'll get a bit more money especially if it's in canada. Knowing that Cloud should definitely stay active.

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          #24
          Originally posted by street bully
          Johnson vs Cloud would be a barnburner.
          It will happen if Johnson beats Mack.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ИATAS206
            Same can be said for Dawson.

            Again though, Dawson has two options at this point - pascal or cloud.

            I know if he'd have to choose he'd go for pascal cuz he'll get a bit more money especially if it's in canada. Knowing that Cloud should definitely stay active.
            But after he fights and lets say he beats those 2....there is really nothing left if he can't physically go up or down in weight. He would just have nothing to do because B-hop I presume will be gone by the time it would make $ense for him to fight Dawson.

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              #26
              Even though I am a known Dawson detractor I'd root for Johnson to beat Cloud if they fought because the Road Warrior is my dude and I always root for him to be successful. I still like Cloud a lot though.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Iceta
                Even though I am a known Dawson detractor I'd root for Johnson to beat Cloud if they fought because the Road Warrior is my dude and I always root for him to be successful. I still like Cloud a lot though.
                He should still be able to get past Mack in my view but Cloud is like a faster younger more powerful version of himself......if he was to ko Johnson I would be seriously impressed.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  Dawson is a no name himself so you're entire argument is invalid. Dawson has no fan base, which is why big names like Hopkins wont give him the time of day. Dawsons options at LHW are litterally Pascal and Cloud. That's it. If he wants to weight drain himself to 168 that's all fine and dandy, but a young guy like hismelf should unify the belts and create a name for himself, not chase big money fights so early. Do what bernard hopkins did - unify the belts, keep winning and eventually the big names come.

                  Further, Dawson at 168...what is he going to do? The super six guys are locked in place for at least another year and what makes you think Lucian Bute would fight dawson when he can take a couple easy fights and wait for the winner of the super six? Dawson cant land any of the big names at 168 right now, maybe in over a year he could but not anytime soon.

                  hit the nail on the head with that post

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                    He should still be able to get past Mack in my view but Cloud is like a faster younger more powerful version of himself......if he was to ko Johnson I would be seriously impressed.
                    Johnson is getting right back to it and fighting like only 2 and half months after his loss to Dawson. So hopefully that fight will happen sooner than we think if it takes Cloud beating Johnson impressively to get Dawson to quit hiding from him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Iceta
                      Johnson is getting right back to it and fighting like only 2 and half months after his loss to Dawson. So hopefully that fight will happen sooner than we think if it takes Cloud beating Johnson impressively to get Dawson to quit hiding from him.
                      He is not hiding, he will probably fight him after Pascal. Cloud should hold up his end though and try to make them both more money in the meantime by looking good in the ring and doing so more frequently.

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