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Originally posted by RodBarker View Post[
NO he isnt unless its special conditions to suit him as always , Floyd wants a fair fight Manny recently is not used to that , Manny like favor his way , this is a fair fight and Manny screws around like a schoolboy saying Im superstitious I will take you to court ,,,,, Manny needs to cut the bull**** and fight in a fair fight .
Didn't your boy have a comeback fight against someone he made come up two weight divisions and yet he still came in overweight...is that fair to you?
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Originally posted by Datu Puti View PostAll I have to say is, they **** with PACQUIAO long enough...PACQUIAO should continue the lawsuit to **** with them in return...**** GBP, **** ELLERBE, HAYMON AND THE MAYWEATHERS...THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL....PROCEED WITH THE LAWSUIT...PACQUIAO don't need MAYWEATHER, but it would be nice to get some of his money. LAWSUIT LAWSUIT LAWSUIT LAWSUIT LAWSUIT......
TEAM MAYWEATHER
GOLDEN BOY PROMOTION
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Originally posted by Easy Work View PostSchaefer believes that Arum's position of leaving it up to the commission is him "moving the goal post."
"The pressure is on Pacquiao," he said. "They keep moving the goal post like they did with the $10 million weight penalty (if either fighter is over the contract maximum 147 pounds), which we agreed to. They didn't think we would accept that. When we did, they had to find something else to make into a problem. So now they're saying it's up to the commission instead of wanting to negotiate the drug testing with us. I don't want to hear that if the fight breaks up it was because of us. When they came to us with a $10 million weight penalty, they didn't expect us to say yes. They thought we'd say no. So when we said yes, they had to come up with something else. Now we're off USADA, and they are going to come and say only urine testing if that's what the commission says. It's really frustrating.
"We are making compromises. It's a two-way street. If they back off again, I will shut off my phone and spend the rest of the Christmas and New Year's time with my family, and good luck to all of these fools."
While Arum is making plans for an alternative fight for Pacquiao against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi -- who has also accused Pacquiao of using PEDs -- if the Mayweather fight falls apart, Schaefer said he hasn't discussed an alternative with Mayweather.
"We haven't discussed anybody else because the fight we want to bring to the fight fans is the one with Pacquiao," he said. "The focus is on getting Mayweather-Pacquiao done while Bob is making calls everywhere on the Malignaggi fight. That shows his focus is not on Mayweather.
"How ridiculous is that that Pacquiao would go and fight the guy who makes accusations that he uses performance enhancing drugs instead of Mayweather (Jr.), who didn't make those accusations? Something is not right. I don't know how to explain it other than maybe Pacquiao doesn't want the Mayweather fight."
Dan Rafael covers boxing for ESPN.com.
Bob Arum =
Still people say PBF is afraid adn doesn´t want the fight, ARE THEY BLIND?, when all points the other direction, the date issue of the fight, $10 million per pound, the drug tests really make me feel bad for PAC, all the contradictions in his team, declaration of Ariza of Pac not knowing what he´s giving him, the legal battle against PBF Team...
Still if this is a promotion strategy for the fight, for me as a fan of both PBF and PAC, the image of PAC is going to be hurt no matter what the outcome is...IMO
Paulie is the worst and most ridiculous leverage I´ve seen in any negotiation...Foreman I won´t even bother to speak about that ******ity
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Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View PostYou keep bringing up what's "fair". Let me ask you what exactly is unfair?
Didn't your boy have a comeback fight against someone he made come up two weight divisions and yet he still came in overweight...is that fair to you?
No its not fair....but ultimately the decision rested with JMM as to wether he wanted to continue the fight. He could have called it off and been compensated. Floyd and his camp did the right thing and phoned JMM camp before the weigh in and told them Floyd was over the agreed limit......Floyd paid for it aswell.....
Ultimetely Floyd handled JMM more easily than alot expected.....purely based on style.....Even Roach said it is a tough fight first one back and that Floyd would need to be at the top of his game to beat JMM....in actuality he beat him with his C level game....
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Originally posted by FightTalent View PostIt does not rest on Mayweather' shoulders, but instead on the powers that be for the respective sanctioning bodies involved and the related or selected health officials to resolve it. Yes an accusation has be voiced which has EVERYONE concerned and everyone wants resolved, but Mayweather doesnt have to prove anything.
The burden is on the accuser not the accused, hence the phrase "innocent until proven guilty". An accusation was brought by Mayweather's team and it is up to him and golden boy to prove these assertions are correct, not for Manny to disprove it for them.Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 12-26-2009, 10:43 PM.
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Originally posted by Mr. Chago View PostMayweather came back of retirement to face PAC, if not why choose JMM and humiliate him?...
Still people say PBF is afraid adn doesn´t want the fight, ARE THEY BLIND?, when all points the other direction, the date issue of the fight, $10 million per pound, the drug tests really make me feel bad for PAC, all the contradictions in his team, declaration of Ariza of Pac not knowing what he´s giving him, the legal battle against PBF Team...
Still if this is a promotion strategy for the fight, for me as a fan of both PBF and PAC, the image of PAC is going to be hurt no matter what the outcome is...IMO
Paulie is the worst and most ridiculous leverage I´ve seen in any negotiation...Foreman I won´t even bother to speak about that ******ity
Everything Floyd and his people have done since he came out of retirement has been to position themselves to face Pacman.....Freddie is well aware of this.....
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Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View PostYou keep bringing up what's "fair". Let me ask you what exactly is unfair?
Didn't your boy have a comeback fight against someone he made come up two weight divisions and yet he still came in overweight...is that fair to you?
Unfair is not taking the same test as your opponent will take , even though your opponent has already agreed to all your demands and he asked for only one thing , a fair no PEDS fight .
Manny has played a stacked book for long time now , with Floyd he is being forced into a fair fight same weight , drug free and he crys fowl ,,, *** off !
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Originally posted by spinika7 View PostEverything Floyd and his people have done since he came out of retirement has been to position themselves to face Pacman.....Freddie is well aware of this.....
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Originally posted by South318 View PostThe keywords are in bold.
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