vitali klitschko:a look at his career

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  • Mikhnienko
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    #21
    Originally posted by P4P Opinion
    I have to agree that Vitali is a great heavyweight with a mediocre resume. It must be said that Vitali has never ducked anyone however and that his relatively weak resume (for a great heavyweight) is as much a result of a weak division as anything else. Frankly, he needs a defining fight before he can retire otherwise his definer will be in defeat to Lewis. Putting aside his brother of course, David Haye is the only fighter out there that can offer Vitali a defining fight.
    Alot of Americans would have you believe that he retired out of his tremendous fear of Rahman. Not because he was injured (and required multiples surgeries on his back and kness) but his fear from Hasim ****ing Rahman.

    That's the type of blind hate and ******ity that urks me.

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    • Ogecca MaMa
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      #22
      Originally posted by P4P Opinion
      No, that's speculation. I don't mean to break your balls too much, but I have a thing about the misuse of word 'fact'. What you say may well be true, but it isn't a fact. Vitali deserved a rematch, but I didn't feel Lewis owed him one. Lewis was old and clearly deteriorating physically yet still managed to find a way to win (like it or not, it was a genuine TKO). Lewis had nothing left to prove to anyone.
      no you wont break my balls. im not nuthugging vitali or any other boxer.

      lets not tlak how Lewis won him.. . After Lewis beated him, who crowd was chearing at? thats right Vitali. Lewis said he'll give him a rematch, did he - no. alright so Lewis didint care about $, neither did Vitali, even thou they could make millions. BUT Lewis wanted to look good and he fought 2 guys that he lost, to.. correct? now once Vitali lsot to Lewis, why won't he give him a rematch ? because he is scared to ruin his legacy and I will say it again - thast a fact. you can tell me whatever you want. i dont give a ****. even though im ukrainian, but i'd still back up Vitali if hed be from MExico or any other country. im a fan of boxing, not some random boxers.

      on other side you back up your coutnry man and basiclly cant find a Good legit excuse. sorry mate

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      • joe strong
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        #23
        Originally posted by Artur Kyshenko
        Because he knows hed humiliate Byrd.. and ppl from boxing community know that Byrd would of lose.. this is silly question you brought about Byrd.

        Now on other side is Lennox Lewis, the guy who won Vitali via Cut. Now every1 around the globe wanted to see the rematch and from what I know theyd both make big bucks. But Lewis just retired. You know why ? simply because Lewis was scared to lose to Vitali and ruin his legacy. and thats a fact. IF Lewis would of fight Vitali and win, don't you think ppl would of respect Lewis more ?

        Howcome Lewis rematched everyone he lost to. But why not give a chance to a guy like Vitali that won most of the boxing hearts. Joe I respect you as a poster, but you need to stop all this hate to Vitali. honestly, sir..
        You are 19 so you must have been young but back then by him not rematching him & winning decisively again it hurt his marketability.the last thing anyone remembered was him quitting.if he rematches him& wins no one ever talks about that fight again.

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        • Ogecca MaMa
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          #24
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          His "retirement" really hurt his chance at a great legacy. Vitali could be owning the division the way Wlad is right now, Wlad stepped in because of Vitali having to take a break. Still a great fighter, and in his prime I think clearly better than Wlad is. Hell, he's probably better right now.
          and about retirement.. Vitali was fighting since he was a kid. may be some of you don't know but he was x2 amateur world kick-b champ and x4 as a pro kick-b champ. Imagine if you are 6.3 and over 230lbs.. no wonder he had his injuries. and still he came back and now at age 39 and keep fighting.

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            #25
            Originally posted by joe strong
            You are 19 so you must have been young but back then by him not rematching him & winning decisively again it hurt his marketability.the last thing anyone remembered was him quitting.if he rematches him& wins no one ever talks about that fight again.
            well I must be young - yes I'm 19. At age 18 I won gold World Championship Muay-Thai, besides that no1 can beat me for 5 years in my country. i won medals and cups all over the globe.. and yes im still 19.

            you want to tell me I dont know much about boxing ? it could be, but In fact I post only about stuff that I know. and im a fan of boxing. Joe once again you just hate Vitali and you have to agree with that.

            I dont care if ppl will red K me, I really don't. I just don't understand people that don't give credit to Vitali. and you are 1 of them Joe. I know it and you know it Joe.

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            • joe strong
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              #26
              When vitali quit vs Byrd his timing was terrible.Tyson,Holyfield,& lennox were still on top & contenders like Byrd,tua,Rahman were fighting each other for top spot & by quitting millions of dollar for anyone fighting him go out the door.no body knew him but they heard he quit vs chris Byrd.in America it didn't fly with the fans too good.face it the real $ is in the states.they do well now in Europe but the states is where you get noticed.it took him years to recover & he gained more from a loss than anyone in history.

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              • joe strong
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                #27
                Originally posted by Artur Kyshenko
                well I must be young - yes I'm 19. At age 18 I won gold World Championship Muay-Thai, besides that no1 can beat me for 5 years in my country. i won medals and cups all over the globe.. and yes im still 19.

                you want to tell me I dont know much about boxing ? it could be, but In fact I post only about stuff that I know. and im a fan of boxing. Joe once again you just hate Vitali and you have to agree with that.

                I dont care if ppl will red K me, I really don't. I just don't understand people that don't give credit to Vitali. and you are 1 of them Joe. I know it and you know it Joe.
                never said you didn't know the sport.cong**** on the mua Thai championship.just have my opinion of his legacy & I compare him a little to tua in the sense he could have done more.he's had a solid career but I think things are missing in his career accomplishments.

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                • P4P Opinion
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Artur Kyshenko
                  no you wont break my balls. im not nuthugging vitali or any other boxer.

                  lets not tlak how Lewis won him.. . After Lewis beated him, who crowd was chearing at? thats right Vitali. Lewis said he'll give him a rematch, did he - no. alright so Lewis didint care about $, neither did Vitali, even thou they could make millions. BUT Lewis wanted to look good and he fought 2 guys that he lost, to.. correct? now once Vitali lsot to Lewis, why won't he give him a rematch ? because he is scared to ruin his legacy and I will say it again - thast a fact.
                  No, it isn't. Look up the definition of the word fact. You've missed my point completely. A fact is something that can be proved - you can't prove that Lewis was scarred of Vitali, you can only speculate.

                  Originally posted by Artur Kyshenko
                  you can tell me whatever you want. i dont give a ****. even though im ukrainian, but i'd still back up Vitali if hed be from MExico or any other country. im a fan of boxing, not some random boxers.

                  on other side you back up your coutnry man and basiclly cant find a Good legit excuse. sorry mate


                  What? So you're a fan of boxing and I'm just a fan of fighters from my country? Get the **** out of here. You don't know a thing about me. I follow fighters who I like the styles of and fighters that I see develop over time.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Artur Kyshenko
                    and about retirement.. Vitali was fighting since he was a kid. may be some of you don't know but he was x2 amateur world kick-b champ and x4 as a pro kick-b champ. Imagine if you are 6.3 and over 230lbs.. no wonder he had his injuries. and still he came back and now at age 39 and keep fighting.
                    I wasn't blaming him for retiring, sorry if it came across that way. I just put retirement in quotations because he didn't stay retired. I know he had lots of injuries to get over, that's why he quit.

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                    • Ogecca MaMa
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by P4P Opinion
                      No, it isn't. Look up the definition of the word fact. You've missed my point completely. A fact is something that can be proved - you can't prove that Lewis was scarred of Vitali, you can only speculate.





                      What? So you're a fan of boxing and I'm just a fan of fighters from my country? Get the **** out of here. You don't know a thing about me. I follow fighters who I like the styles of and fighters that I see develop over time.
                      What can i tell if the guy on your avatar is David Haye.. . and please don't curse my way.. I hate when some curse on internet. meet me in real life then say it to eyes. And yes you are ****** if you can give me different reasons why Lewis didn't rematch him. I wouldnt even bring this, but Joe started this thread.

                      Let me tell you why you are a fan of BRit fighters. you have a David Haye on your ava.. who is David Haye ? wbo World champ - ok. but he ducked both K, Vitali would of destroy David. IDk about Wlad.. David could of fight silly Wlad. But instead he ducked or playing mental games and planning to fight them in future. Sorry mate but David Haye aint ****n Floyd Mayweather. that mofo can play mind games and piss you off and hype the fight, like no other!

                      and now u back up Lewis without any facts.. so if you wont write some legit proove, I wont answer you. curse to your friends, not me
                      Last edited by Ogecca MaMa; 12-25-2009, 04:39 PM.

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