Is Pac greater than SRL?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • andrewcuff
    Banned
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Dec 2008
    • 1790
    • 83
    • 57
    • 2,078

    #31
    Originally posted by M@nny
    OK Mr Knowledge, now enlighten us, unbiasedly on... Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Hatton & Cotto... not to mention Ledwaba & Larios. And don't start telling us how weight drained or past their prime they were because I'm sure we can find detractors on all of the above mentioned Leonard opponents.
    Read my signature. Pacman is my favourite current fighter! I'm not criticising his resume, merely pointing out that Leonards is greater.

    Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler > Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hota, Hatton and Cotto.

    Not by a huge margin, but enough to put Leonard in the Top 10.

    Comment

    • El Chicano
      Juan Hitter Quitter
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Feb 2007
      • 10997
      • 375
      • 378
      • 17,954

      #32
      Originally posted by andrewcuff
      Read my signature. Pacman is my favourite current fighter! I'm not criticising his resume, merely pointing out that Leonards is greater.

      Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler > Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hota, Hatton and Cotto.

      Not by a huge margin, but enough to put Leonard in the Top 10.
      I disagree. You're talking about 4 fights. Manny's accomplishments are more meaningful against MORE fighters. You are all caught up with **** you know nothing of. You weren't even alive when Marvin fought Ray. I've been watching boxing longer than you've been around young buck. What Manny has done it simply amazing. Manny's challenge for the Welterweight title was comparable to Ray's challenge for the Light Heavyweight Title (@168, bet you didn't know that), but Manny's defeat of Cotto ****s on Rays win over Lalonde. And that's just one reason why Manny is as high, if not higher than Ray on the All Time list. End of Thread.

      Comment

      • Roxas
        Banned
        • Nov 2008
        • 1492
        • 47
        • 45
        • 1,649

        #33
        Originally posted by andrewcuff
        A Top 5 ATG?

        So, out of Robinson, Ali, Louis, Gans, Benny Leonard, Sugar Ray Leonard, Greb, Duran etc is he better than then?

        Top 5 is ludicrous.

        Pac's resume does not trump Leonards. Simple.
        Pacs shady record doesn't come anywhere close to Leonards his steroid abuse doesn't help ethier.....

        Comment

        • andrewcuff
          Banned
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Dec 2008
          • 1790
          • 83
          • 57
          • 2,078

          #34
          Originally posted by M@nny
          I disagree. You're talking about 4 fights. Manny's accomplishments are more meaningful against MORE fighters. You are all caught up with **** you know nothing of. You weren't even alive when Marvin fought Ray. I've been watching boxing longer than you've been around young buck. What Manny has done it simply amazing. Manny's challenge for the Welterweight title was comparable to Ray's challenge for the Light Heavyweight Title (@168, bet you didn't know that), but Manny's defeat of Cotto ****s on Rays win over Lalonde. And that's just one reason why Manny is as high, if not higher than Ray on the All Time list. End of Thread.
          1. Know nothing of? How do you know what I know, old boy?
          2. My DOB is irrelevant. Watching the fights in 1987 or 2007 does not alter what you learn.
          3. The "I'm older than the hills" chestnut is meaningless.
          4. Ray's win over LaLonde is hardly a claim to greatness, which is why I did not use it in my explanation of his resume. Doh!
          5. The vast majority of people rate Leonard higher than Pacquiao for good reason.

          Leonard has greater names on his resume due to the outstanding era he fought in.

          Comment

          • andrewcuff
            Banned
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Dec 2008
            • 1790
            • 83
            • 57
            • 2,078

            #35
            Originally posted by Roxas
            Pacs shady record doesn't come anywhere close to Leonards his steroid abuse doesn't help ethier.....
            Drugs have nothing to do with this thread Mr Troll.

            Comment

            • El Chicano
              Juan Hitter Quitter
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Feb 2007
              • 10997
              • 375
              • 378
              • 17,954

              #36
              Originally posted by andrewcuff
              1. Know nothing of? How do you know what I know, old boy?
              2. My DOB is irrelevant. Watching the fights in 1987 or 2007 does not alter what you learn.
              3. The "I'm older than the hills" chestnut is meaningless.
              4. Ray's win over LaLonde is hardly a claim to greatness, which is why I did not use it in my explanation of his resume. Doh!
              5. The vast majority of people rate Leonard higher than Pacquiao for good reason.

              Leonard has greater names on his resume due to the outstanding era he fought in.
              OK, none of what you wrote above, supports your claim. If you're simply talking about names, Oscar, MAB, Morales and JMM suffice as "great names".

              Comment

              • andrewcuff
                Banned
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Dec 2008
                • 1790
                • 83
                • 57
                • 2,078

                #37
                Originally posted by M@nny
                OK, none of what you wrote above, supports your claim.
                Give it up. I presented logical reasons in an earlier post. I am a big Pacquaio fan and put him Top 25. Beating Mayweather will put him Top 15. Unfortunately, as far as you are concerned, Leonard is Top 10.

                Many, many people share this view.

                Comment

                • andrewcuff
                  Banned
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1790
                  • 83
                  • 57
                  • 2,078

                  #38
                  Originally posted by M@nny
                  I disagree. You're talking about 4 fights. Manny's accomplishments are more meaningful against MORE fighters. You are all caught up with **** you know nothing of. You weren't even alive when Marvin fought Ray. I've been watching boxing longer than you've been around young buck. What Manny has done it simply amazing. Manny's challenge for the Welterweight title was comparable to Ray's challenge for the Light Heavyweight Title (@168, bet you didn't know that), but Manny's defeat of Cotto ****s on Rays win over Lalonde. And that's just one reason why Manny is as high, if not higher than Ray on the All Time list. End of Thread.
                  That's the thing with this website: if you present an opinion that differs from someone else, regardless of how logical or objective it is, is ridiculed because the poster is too young, knows too little blah blah.

                  Cheap debating tactics.

                  Comment

                  • Kiid Dynamite
                    Banned
                    Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 783
                    • 34
                    • 76
                    • 1,028

                    #39
                    Originally posted by andrewcuff
                    That's the thing with this website: if you present an opinion that differs from someone else, regardless of how logical or objective it is, is ridiculed because the poster is too young, knows too little blah blah.

                    Cheap debating tactics.
                    if pacquiao beats mayweather, it doesnt have to be convincingly ala leonard vs hagler... pacquiao ranks higher than leonard

                    if you dont think that well then, your living in the past

                    at this moment, it could go either way maybe even even lol

                    Comment

                    • andrewcuff
                      Banned
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1790
                      • 83
                      • 57
                      • 2,078

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bin Laden
                      if pacquiao beats mayweather, it doesnt have to be convincingly ala leonard vs hagler... pacquiao ranks higher than leonard

                      if you dont think that well then, your living in the past

                      at this moment, it could go either way maybe even even lol
                      Not necessarily. It would depend on the nature of the win. A close decision would be less impressive than Leonards wins over Duran & Hearns 147. However, "doing a Hatton" job on Floyd would really make things close.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP