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  • andrewcuff
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    #21
    Originally posted by M@nny
    Benitez...lol

    Duran was a great Lightweight, and he beat Ray at Welter!

    Tommy always had suspect whiskers and Ray was getting his ass handed to him for the most part of that fight.

    The Super Fight... The majority of the peeps who watched that fight will say Marvin beat Ray.
    Benitez was one of the greatest defensive fighters in history and the youngest world champion ever, at 17. Saying 'lol' only shows your ignorance.

    Duran was excellent at WW too. If you've seen his fights you'd appreciate was a monster he was during his prime.

    Hearns was chinny, yes, but an excellent boxer and easily a Top 5 WW of all time.

    Hagler - The majority? Bit of an overstatement. It was a close decision, which means it was not a robbery from either fighters perspective.



    Explain how Pacmans top four wins measure up to this?

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    • Kiid Dynamite
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      #22
      Originally posted by andrewcuff
      Point out how those fighters are overrated?

      Look at who they beat, how many fighters they fought and cannot fail to be impressed.


      Harry Greb, Middleweight champion 1922-1926 was one of the greatest pound for poudn fighters of all time.



      Pacman is Top 25 ATG and a win over Mayweather would propel him higher, but Leonard is, and likely always be greater, due to the competition around during his era
      every win for them is a great win

      their opponents today are called atgs but that is blown out of proportion like crazy

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        #23
        Originally posted by Bin Laden
        every win for them is a great win

        their opponents today are called atgs but that is blown out of proportion like crazy
        Every opponent? No.

        Take the time to read the articles instead of replying with the usual "every old fighter is overrated" drivel.

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          #24
          Originally posted by andrewcuff
          Benitez was one of the greatest defensive fighters in history and the youngest world champion ever, at 17. Saying 'lol' only shows your ignorance.

          Duran was excellent at WW too. If you've seen his fights you'd appreciate was a monster he was during his prime.

          Hearns was chinny, yes, but an excellent boxer and easily a Top 5 WW of all time.

          Hagler - The majority? Bit of an overstatement. It was a close decision, which means it was not a robbery from either fighters perspective.



          Explain how Pacmans top four wins measure up to this?
          if pacquiao was fighting in the 40s or whatever decade from the past, people today will rank very high because hes from the past

          today, nobody appreciates what they have and dont realise that they have one of he greatest fighters ever lived present, boxing

          it shows ur ignorance not to see that

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            #25
            Originally posted by Bin Laden
            if pacquiao was fighting in the 40s or whatever decade from the past, people today will rank very high because hes from the past

            today, nobody appreciates what they have and dont realise that they have one of he greatest fighters ever lived present, boxing

            it shows ur ignorance not to see that
            Yes, he is one of the Top 25 boxer to have ever lived. I am a big Pacman fan, but be realistic here.

            Are you going to explain how his resume measures up against Leonards, then?

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              #26
              Thomas Hearns would blast Manny Pacquiao into orbit and benitez would clown him.

              There really is no comparison between Leonard and Pacquiao.Pacquiao has made a legacy out of washed up,over the hill,weight drained opponents who were never at their best when he fought them.




              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              for the record, you're right.

              for the record,you've never even seen that fight.

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              • Kiid Dynamite
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                #27
                Originally posted by andrewcuff
                Yes, he is one of the Top 25 boxer to have ever lived. I am a big Pacman fan, but be realistic here.

                Are you going to explain how his resume measures up against Leonards, then?
                dude, look ill summaries it because im getting bored of this long debate n got better things to do

                hes won titles all the way from 106 to 145, i think the exception of bantamweight im not sure

                but that it self is huge

                hes beaten guys like mab, morales, marquez, hatton etc - you already kno who hes beaten, we both were alive this decade so theirs kno need to go into detail

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bin Laden
                  dude, look ill summaries it because im getting bored of this long debate n got better things to do

                  hes won titles all the way from 106 to 145, i think the exception of bantamweight im not sure

                  but that it self is huge

                  hes beaten guys like mab, morales, marquez, hatton etc - you already kno who hes beaten, we both were alive this decade so theirs kno need to go into detail
                  Translation: You an justify your claim than Pacquaio is better than Leonard.

                  Both are great boxers, but Leonard has the edge.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by andrewcuff
                    Benitez was one of the greatest defensive fighters in history and the youngest world champion ever, at 17. Saying 'lol' only shows your ignorance.

                    Duran was excellent at WW too. If you've seen his fights you'd appreciate was a monster he was during his prime.

                    Hearns was chinny, yes, but an excellent boxer and easily a Top 5 WW of all time.

                    Hagler - The majority? Bit of an overstatement. It was a close decision, which means it was not a robbery from either fighters perspective.



                    Explain how Pacmans top four wins measure up to this?
                    OK Mr Knowledge, now enlighten us, unbiasedly on... Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Hatton & Cotto... not to mention Ledwaba & Larios. And don't start telling us how weight drained or past their prime they were because I'm sure we can find detractors on all of the above mentioned Leonard opponents.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by andrewcuff
                      Translation: You an justify your claim than Pacquaio is better than Leonard.

                      Both are great boxers, but Leonard has the edge.
                      you an???

                      i think they both can be mentioned in the same sentence and both are great fighters

                      they both are very close to each other on the atg list.

                      if pacquiao defeats mayweather, no doubt pac is ranked ahead of leonard

                      but at this time, its kinda close and can go either way

                      i still rank pac ahead

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