Is Pac greater than SRL?

[El Chicano]

A Top 5 ATG?

So, out of Robinson, Ali, Louis, Gans, Benny Leonard, Sugar Ray Leonard, Greb, Duran etc is he better than then?

Top 5 is ludicrous.

Pac's resume does not trump Leonards. Simple.

Tell us about Ray's resume then...

[andrewcuff]

he didn't beat hagler.

Haha. Hagler threw the fight away in the first half of the fight. Shame.

[andrewcuff]

Tell us about Ray's resume then...

Beat one of the very greatest defensive fighters in Wilfred Benitez.
Beat one of the greatest boxers of all time in Duran (2-1)
Unified the WW crown against one of the greatest 147lbers of all time in Hearns
Narrowly beat one of the greatest MWs of all time in Hagler.



How does Pacman stand up to this exactly?

[Left Hook Tua]

Haha. Hagler threw the fight away in the first half of the fight. Shame.

even with that beginning , ray still didn't win.

flurrying bull**** pittypats during the last few seconds of a round don't win you the round.

bull****.

[Kiid Dynamite]

A Top 5 ATG?

So, out of Robinson, Ali, Louis, Gans, Benny Leonard, Sugar Ray Leonard, Greb, Duran etc is he better than then?

Top 5 is ludicrous.

Pac's resume does not trump Leonards. Simple.

joe gans, benny leonard and harry greb legacy is so overated because of what decade they fought in

because they are from the past, for sum reason feel that u have to bow down to them... come on give me a break

srr, ali, srl, duran are all official atg

[Left Hook Tua]

Beat one of the very greatest defensive fighters in Wilfred Benitez.
Beat one of the greatest boxers of all time in Duran (2-1)
Unified the WW crown against one of the greatest 147lbers of all time in Hearns
Narrowly beat one of the greatest MWs of all time in Hagler.



How does Pacman stand up to this exactly?

not too well.

but he's up there somewhere. he's part of the conversation which is an honor in itself.

[andrewcuff]

even with that beginning , ray still didn't win.

flurrying bull**** pittypats during the last few seconds of a round don't win you the round.

bull****.

That is another story for another day lol. Both are two of may fav fighters, so it is difficult to score!

[andrewcuff]

joe gans, benny leonard and harry greb legacy is so overated because of what decade they fought in

because they are from the past, for sum reason feel that u have to bow down to them... come on give me a break

srr, ali, srl, duran are all official atg

Point out how those fighters are overrated?

Look at who they beat, how many fighters they fought and cannot fail to be impressed.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/bleonard.html

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/greb.html

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/gans2.html

Pacman is Top 25 ATG and a win over Mayweather would propel him higher, but Leonard is, and likely always be greater, due to the competition around during his era

[El Chicano]

Beat one of the very greatest defensive fighters in Wilfred Benitez.
Beat one of the greatest boxers of all time in Duran (2-1)
Unified the WW crown against one of the greatest 147lbers of all time in Hearns
Narrowly beat one of the greatest MWs of all time in Hagler.



How does Pacman stand up to this exactly?

Benitez...lol

Duran was a great Lightweight, and he beat Ray at Welter!

Tommy always had suspect whiskers and Ray was getting his ass handed to him for the most part of that fight.

The Super Fight... The majority of the peeps who watched that fight will say Marvin beat Ray.

[Kiid Dynamite]

That is another story for another day lol. Both are two of may fav fighters, so it is difficult to score!

ray knew hagler was in depression, looking to retire and was very vulnerable because of this

hagler wanted a fight with ray years back and ray had retired.. ray jumped on the right oppurtinty to fight hagler [ he had just finished up from a war with mugabi and was looking to retire ]

the fight was close, but ray got the decision so u gotta add that win to his legacy