Originally posted by GranTorino
Wladimir's showing
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Originally posted by SacTown1Vlad has fought only 2 big punchers his entire career:
Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster
basically Vlad is 0-2 vs. guys who actually had a chance to beat him
(McCline was too soft, Mercer was too old, and Castillo was too small)
You're just full of excuses, aren't you?Comment
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Look, not to sound like a whiner, but some of you guys are implying that Wlad "nuthuggers" are making more out of this fight than it is. While it didn't prove a whole lot, I think we're forgetting that some of these "haters" actually picked Castillo to win by KO in the pole lolComment
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You conveniently leave out the fact that Castillo was Wlad's third choice for opponent. It's not his fault that Byrd pussied out, and that the other cat had visa problems. Castillo signed on a two week notice, you dumb****. Give the man some credit.Originally posted by vB MartinI'm bored, so I totalled his prior oppositions' cuurent records
Pre-Moorer: 142-222-17 (37.2% winning)
With Moorer: 189-226-18 (43.6% winning)
Do you still think he was a legimate competitor for Wlad? If you honestly do, you must not think much of Wlad.
Like I've said before, I have no qualms with Wlad working his way up slowly. I just think that some of the serious nuthuggers on here are making it seem like the Second Coming of Christ. It's not.Comment
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All of that is really irrelevant. The nuthuggers are still acting as if this is a great victory.Originally posted by GranTorinoYou conveniently leave out the fact that Castillo was Wlad's third choice for opponent. It's not his fault that Byrd pussied out, and that the other cat had visa problems. Castillo signed on a two week notice, you dumb****. Give the man some credit.
And you're right about the haters, too. They are as bad as the nuthiggers, just on the opposite side fo the fence. Of course if you had read the entire thread, you would have seen that I have already stated this, you dumb****.Comment
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Originally posted by vB Martinguru, Owen "Hit The Deck" Beck and Rydell "I Suck" Booker both had the same history of horrible opponents leading into their respective matches. I think the difference is that Toney and Barrett had both just come off of stunning upset wins over Jirov and Guinn respectively. Toney totally destroyed Holyfield (Yes, Holy looked old in the fight, I know), which had never been done before, and Barrett had a very close MD loss over Mesi, who was supposed to destroy him. Wlad can't claim a stunning upset WIN in the past few years, or even a good showing against someone considered to be a all-time great or real contender. He does, however, have 2 KO losses over people who were supposed to be warmups.
I don't think either of them, should they win a belt, will be able to hold onto it for very long, but they have both earned a shot. Wlad still has to earn that.
If Wlad continues to work the way he did in that fight, and defeats his stamina/chin problem, he will hold a belt for many years. At least he can say that much where the other 2 can't.
thats my point, why does wlad coming off of two losses catch flack for fighting castillo, while mccline and barrett catch no flack for fighting beck and boswell, which leads to them getting title shots or ranked as contenders?? wlad is allowed a mediorce opponent after the brewster disaster.... he should be given praise for taking a guy better than boswell or beck, who mccline and barrett fought without coimng off a loss.... and even worse example is that nobody has gotten on rahman's case for all the BUMS he's fought in the last 2 years....Comment
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please be more rational... mercer, jefferson and mccline can all punch and wlad beat them easily, so its not true "whenever he fights a puncher he gets KO'd"... i think the brewster and purrity losses have more to do with stamina than wlad's ability to take a punch....Originally posted by SacTown1I make no excuses for anybody, just stating the facts, and the fact is that Vlad can't take a punch and whenever he fights a puncher he gets KO'dComment
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Originally posted by vB MartinAll of that is really irrelevant. The nuthuggers are still acting as if this is a great victory.
And you're right about the haters, too. They are as bad as the nuthiggers, just on the opposite side fo the fence. Of course if you had read the entire thread, you would have seen that I have already stated this, you dumb****.
i agree, this is nothing to declare that wlad is BACK.... but it is a positive sign and much better than what happened with TOS... and yes the "haters" are being irrational, as "haters" usually are...Comment
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Thanks for the textbook reply Mr. Steward....Mercer was like 75 years old when he tangled with Vlad, and he wasn't that big of a puncher when he was young....McCline is totally feather-fisted, a KO win vs. Mike Grant proves nothing....Jefferson was totally washed-up by the time Vlad got to himOriginally posted by guruplease be more rational... mercer, jefferson and mccline can all punch and wlad beat them easily, so its not true "whenever he fights a puncher he gets KO'd"... i think the brewster and purrity losses have more to do with stamina than wlad's ability to take a punch....Comment
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