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  • Originally posted by DLT View Post
    well Floyd still wins because he is the most accurate guy in the history of the sport
    True... Floyd is the most accurate.. He's Hitting around 59% of his punches But he throws only 30-40/ rd.

    Pac hits only around 49% 0f his punches but he throws 75-100 punches per rd.

    Just Check the compubox... Pac outlanded DLH, Hatton, MAB, EM, Diaz, at the average of 3:1. Floyd normally outlanded his opponent 2:1 only.

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    • Originally posted by davis828 View Post
      Stop typing with so many punctuations guy, relax. Manny Pacquiao hasn't fought anybody in their prime since JMM at 130 so what's your point?

      Mayweather cemented his legacy from 130-135. Manny Pacquiao cemented his legacy from 126-130. You have to understand that when fighters move up in weight (nowadays, not on that Henry Armstrong deal) they do it for fiscal reasons. You find the fight that will get you the most money and the one that will highlight your attributes. Neither of them have fought THE best opposition. Pacquiao skipped over Joel Casamayor, Joan Guzman, Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, Acelino Freitas, and Michael Katsidis at lightweight. He fought Oscar at a weight (that fooled all of us, kudos to Roach for draining him) he wasn't effective at, he didn't fight Cotto then, he didn't fight Mosley then (or when Mosley was waiting to fight him while Cotto was training for Clottey, Roach knew what would happen), Pac didn't fight Margarito then, he didn't fight PWill then. At 140, Ricky was given the crown because he outwrestled Kosta at home in a division where everybody was leaving. If you really want to look at resumes (which is ridiculous imo) who has Ricky Beat? If you didn't see Cotto losing at '45 (or even '47) then clearly you didn't watch Cotto training in 24/7 looking like he was just in it for the check. Like I said, why not Shane Mosley?

      It's too easy to sling mud one way and then cry and point fingers when it comes back.
      Excuses only satisfiy those that make them !! Manny couldn't keep starving him self,,, he had to turn loose of the diets and eat to live or just fold up in those lower weights,,, Its a sad day when people say Pac has ducked somebody,,,,, Diaz was prime,,, Hatton was prime,,Cotto 28 is still in his prime... Excuses only satisfy those that make them !!

      Sorry for the punctuations,,,, I love to get excited !!!!! oops LOL

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      • Originally posted by jtiger78 View Post
        i knew pac would win all his last 3 fights im a floyd fan
        Wow,,, LOL,,, you might be da MANG ! LOL

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        • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
          i know mayweather is the type of guy people want to see lose , but its ridiculous how people underestimate him he has the talent and ability to make easy work of pacyow not to mention the style.there are little to no advantages for manny in this fight other than his popularity literally.
          I have to agree with you to the fact that many people are underestimating Money's talent and skill as a boxer. Although, I am not going to say that PAC will not bring anything to the table when they do meet. PAC did not beat his previous opponents with just his fist and fast feet. PAC will be ready for this one as much as Money.

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          • Originally posted by davis828 View Post
            You're right, Pac has passed his tests, but from what I've heard, is that the only tests administered before and after bouts are urine tests.

            MLB players have found many ways to beat the simple urine test to enhance their performance. There are PED's out there that won't be recognized in the results, so I see nothing wrong with Olympic style testing and having blood drawn prior to and after this bout because it's an Olympic type of event.

            I, personally being a Mayweather fan, do not believe Pacquiao has been taking steroids, but like boxing's truth stated (I believe it was ha)... you always have to keep your mind open to the possibility.
            You have to look at who is making the claim, it's Roger and Floyd Sr and why anyone would take anything these two guys say even remotely seriously is beyond me. Both of them are as a dumb as a bag of rocks, in fact if scientists combined their collective intelligence into one person and then compared that brain power to someone in a vegetative state, the vegetative state wins 10 out of 10 times.
            Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 12-22-2009, 03:39 PM.

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            • Originally posted by davis828 View Post
              Mayweather seems to have adjusted well to southpaws though. He was rocked a couple times by Corley and I only saw him hurt once by Judah (not the knockdown since Floyd's senses were still there) who happens to have some of the fastest in the sport right now. I wouldn't doubt that PBF is flawless this time around.
              That is Floyd's biggest ability is to adjust in mid fight, Marquez is able to do so but Floyd is just better at it.

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              • Originally posted by gamebulldawg View Post
                lol,,,, missed it badly !!!!!!!! Lol

                tell me something,,, does gameness need to be in a fighter the caliber of mayweather ????????

                Does boxing , boxers even need to consider gameness.

                Should gameness need to be discussed when discussing winning and losing??

                What is yer thought on what gameness is and does anyone need it,,,,,,are fights ever won or lost on gameness,, should gameness be forgotton, cause some old fuddy duddy brings it up all the time ?????????????????

                Gord head and tell me .

                Look at the dog in the avatar ,,,, what do yu think he did ??? Lol
                lmao!!!!!!

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                • Originally posted by gamebulldawg View Post
                  several reasons:::

                  One to antagonize you till the fight gets signed and then i will tell all the rest getting more intense as the fight gets closer,,, lol,,, all in fun,,,,,,,,,lol
                  lol the ali shuffle in the mayweather chavez fight deserves an oscar!!!!!!!

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                  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    This fight is going to come down to who will fight who fight. If Floyd
                    stays in a defensive counter puncher stance, Manny is going to get
                    beat down because as I watched Manny so many times, his speed
                    becomes a factor when his opponents try to pressure and muscle
                    him leaving themselves open to be dominated by his speed. Floyd
                    is just different. Manny has problems with boxers, I've been wrong about
                    Manny 3 times because I didn't think he was capable of moving up
                    and dominating bigger guys and he did, more power and respect to him
                    BUT Floyd is a different fighter all together. Pacquiao is way to wild
                    for someone as accurate and patient as Floyd. Should be a great
                    fight but got Floyd on this one and sure this time I won't be wrong.
                    Good post. Like you said, PAC is the complete opposite of Money. One is unorthodox and wild and the other is collective and patient. I think both have the right tools to beat the other. It is just a matter of who can adapt first and apply the right strategy.

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                    • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
                      You have to look at who is making the claim, it's Roger and Floyd Sr and why anyone would take anything these two guys say even remotely seriously is beyond me. Both of them are as a dumb as a bag of rocks, in fact if scientists combined their collective intelligence into one person and then compared that brain power to someone in a vegetative state, the vegetative state wins 10 out of 10 times.
                      WHY ARE THEY DUMB AS A BAG OF ROCKS? U KNOW COMMON SENSE, AND STREET SMARTS GETS YOU FARTHER THAN BOOK SMARTS. U DONT KNOW ANY OF THESE MEN PERSONALLY JUST BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE ALCOHOLICS, AND MAY NOT SPEAK UP TO THE STANDARDS OF PROPER ENGLISH DONT MEAN THEY ARE JUST DUMB AS HELL!

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