The reason people think Pac is using PEDs is because hes retained his power right?

[Assault]

Can anyone tell me how Tommy Hearns was able to retain his power above 147 and even above 160?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

The saying must be true then,

"great minds think alike".

Tommy had about 10KOs in fights over 170...that's 23lbs above WW...PAC is fighting 21lbs about FW....people dont get it

[Vasyl’s dad]

Because Thomas Hearns was a HUGE HUGE WW? Just as Tito was a HUGE HUGE WW.

so,

in retrospect,

Manny Pacquiao was a HUGE, HUGE flyweight?

Right.

Seeing as how Manny was going up more than 10 pounds after weigh in at SFW fights, that would also have made him a HUGE SFW,

right?


Just want to clarify.

[S A M U R A I]

Well I believe the argument is that Manny has gotten stronger, more powerful. Like that he did to Hatton and Cotto, hurting guys like that at that weight when he was not able to do that against some other opponents like Barrera II, JMM (even though he dropped him 4 times) Larios, etc etc.

Also, Hearns did retain his power, but he was a skinny 147 and was obviously going to be moving up as his career went forward.

Lesser fighters than Pacquiao hurt Hatton and Cotto. Juan Lazcano? If he can hurt Hatton it's not surprising that Manny can one-punch KO his ass. Cotto was beaten by speed, not by power. Beaten to the punch all night. The knockdowns didn't look like particularly brutal punches, they were just expertly timed.



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[Easy-E]

Tommy had about 10KOs in fights over 170...that's 23lbs above WW...PAC is fighting 21lbs about FW....people dont get it

Right but he did start his career at 106.

[DrewWoodside]

Agree with you, Drew. He was only weakening the body by draining so much.

People only look at it as though he was in peak condition at 130 and magically brought it up with him. Perhaps he's in even better condition at 140-145 range yet is still able to drain down to 130 and through sheer ability and will is still able to be extremely dangerous.

[Easy-E]

Tommy had about 10KOs in fights over 170...that's 23lbs above WW...PAC is fighting 21lbs about FW....people dont get it

Also it is about body weight percentage as opposed to overall weight.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Well I believe the argument is that Manny has gotten stronger, more powerful. Like that he did to Hatton and Cotto, hurting guys like that at that weight when he was not able to do that against some other opponents like Barrera II, JMM (even though he dropped him 4 times) Larios, etc etc.

Also, Hearns did retain his power, but he was a skinny 147 and was obviously going to be moving up as his career went forward.

So, what was Manny at 108, 112 and above?

Fat?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Tommy had about 10KOs in fights over 170...that's 23lbs above WW...PAC is fighting 21lbs about FW....people dont get it

Your comparing a HUGE WW on the move up to a average sized LW/ Jr WW on the move up. Even SRL would be a bad example.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Right but he did start his career at 106.

and Tommy started his career as a lightweight