The reason people think Pac is using PEDs is because hes retained his power right?

[Vasyl’s dad]

That seems to be the consensus among the idiots who have tried to downplay Pacs success above 130.

Can anyone tell me how Tommy Hearns was able to retain his power above 147 and even above 160?

Since 1994, well beyond his prime, he had 11 fights until his retirement. 8 of those fights ended by stoppage. Granted, they weren't the biggest names,

but just how did the Hitman retain his power?

Was it just natural progression of his body size and maintaining his natural power punching abilities,

or was he using PEDs as well?


Even between the time period of 94 and the time of his welterweight days,

he was still slaying cats left and right.


Idiots, come state your case.

[Syf]

Can anyone tell me how Tommy Hearns was able to retain his power above 147 and even above 160?

Aliens.....

[-MAKAVELLI-]

i had this discussion at ESB last week...i brought up tommy and all i got was 'tommy was special'...i guess only tommy gets a pass

[DrewWoodside]

Perhaps Pacquiao's power was actually a bit limited down at the lower weights.. Maybe that's why he seems as strong as ever right now. Going all the way down in weight actually wasn't equalling greater strength to opponents.

[S A M U R A I]

That seems to be the consensus among the idiots who have tried to downplay Pacs success above 130.

Can anyone tell me how Tommy Hearns was able to retain his power above 147 and even above 160?

Since 1994, well beyond his prime, he had 11 fights until his retirement. 8 of those fights ended by stoppage. Granted, they weren't the biggest names,

but just how did the Hitman retain his power?

Was it just natural progression of his body size and maintaining his natural power punching abilities,

or was he using PEDs as well?


Even between the time period of 94 and the time of his welterweight days,

he was still slaying cats left and right.


Idiots, come state your case.

They think he packed on a ton of muscle, which is incorrect. He doesn't cut weight as much, that's all. His weight has stayed pretty consistent. They also think he's on steroids because he was able to take Cotto's punches. That's just how Pacquiao is though. Shawn Porter was talking about how difficult it is to tell what Pacquiao is feeling in the ring. You don't know if he's happy, tired, hurt, or whatever. He simply doesn't show emotion. That's how it was for Cotto. He was hurt but didn't show it because he wanted to freak Cotto out and win the mental battle. Steroids don't stop you from being hurt or KO'd anyway. Ask Vargas who got KO'd by Oscar.



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[Doctor_Tenma]

Can anyone tell me how Tommy Hearns was able to retain his power above 147 and even above 160?

Because Thomas Hearns was a HUGE HUGE WW? Just as Tito was a HUGE HUGE WW.

[Vasyl’s dad]

i had this discussion at ESB last week...i brought up tommy and all i got was 'tommy was special'...i guess only tommy gets a pass

The saying must be true then,

"great minds think alike".

[S A M U R A I]

Perhaps Pacquiao's power was actually a bit limited down at the lower weights.. Maybe that's why he seems as strong as ever right now. Going all the way down in weight actually wasn't equalling greater strength to opponents.

Agree with you, Drew. He was only weakening the body by draining so much.



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[Easy-E]

Well I believe the argument is that Manny has gotten stronger, more powerful. Like that he did to Hatton and Cotto, hurting guys like that at that weight when he was not able to do that against some other opponents like Barrera II, JMM (even though he dropped him 4 times) Larios, etc etc.

Also, Hearns did retain his power, but he was a skinny 147 and was obviously going to be moving up as his career went forward.

[Easy-E]

They think he packed on a ton of muscle, which is incorrect. He doesn't cut weight as much, that's all. His weight has stayed pretty consistent. They also think he's on steroids because he was able to take Cotto's punches. That's just how Pacquiao is though. Shawn Porter was talking about how difficult it is to tell what Pacquiao is feeling in the ring. You don't know if he's happy, tired, hurt, or whatever. He simply doesn't show emotion. That's how it was for Cotto. He was hurt but didn't show it because he wanted to freak Cotto out and win the mental battle. Steroids don't stop you from being hurt or KO'd anyway. Ask Vargas who got KO'd by Oscar.

He definitly has put on some serious muscle, but his training habits and diet could easily be the reason for that.