Kelly Pavlik sucks and is a Failure.

[Calilloyd]

the guy hasn't fought in 10months dude and he STOPPED the guy...then the first thread i see is this ******ed bull****...you stop doing something for 10months and then see how you do..

dont ball up for 10months and when you do play, let say you drop 40pts...then i call you a failure....it would be a douchebag move on my part

His belt was not on the line so he risked nothing. Especially since so many people bought his ready made excuses for losing that fight. It's time for Pavlik to step up and fight a true middleweight challenger. He's been riding off the Jermaine Taylor win too long now.

[Bushidō]

Pavlik should try to emulate Margaritos style and wear Williams down. If Margarito could hit Williams than PAvlik certainly can too

[Manboyeatme]

i just dont understand how people fail to realize these two points:

Paul Williams gets hit ALOT...Pavlik hits harder than Martinez


Martinez dropped Williams and buckled him on several occasions...

I see it that way but Williams got hurt because he was getting hit by hits he couldnt see they were very well placed counter punches... Pavlik doesnt fight like Martinez remember that.

[Calilloyd]

The difference between Pavlikkk and Williams:

Williams got hit at will by a world class p4p level fighter in Martinez.

Pavlik got hit at will by a scrub who's not even ranked anywhere near the top 20.

Yeah I find it funny how Pavlik gets props for that but Williams gets hated on for it. Pretty backwards to me.

[Motofan]

First of all, wtf Bernstein smoking even muttering Castillo/Corrales in the same breath as this piece of **** fight?

Espino got beat but busted up Kelly Pavlikkk in the process.

Pavlik is finished. He couldn't even put away this journeyman. His corner had to stop it.



I'd love to see Paul Williams or my main man Sergio Martinez smoke Pavlikkk.

Reported.

[-Hyperion-]

i'm definitely down for that...Williams is gonna get that skinny torso ripped and then he's gonna run into a right hand...this time, snot flies out of BOTH nostrils


i was expecting an extremely rusty Pavlik and was anticipating a 12round, workmanlike performance...he looked better that i thought he would

rofl...thats pretty dumb...anyone whos seen espino fight expected just this kind of fight........

[Calilloyd]

i just dont understand how people fail to realize these two points:

Paul Williams gets hit ALOT...Pavlik hits harder than Martinez


Martinez dropped Williams and buckled him on several occasions...

I don't understand how people can't see 3 pretty obvious things


1. Martiunez is a southpaw

2. Martinez is at least twice faster than Pavlik. He throws punches from differewnt angles and hit Williams with punches he didn't see.

3. Martinez is much harder to hit and has a far superior defense to Pavlik.
There are no similiraties at all if you compare the styles and the two fighters. I

[El Castigador]

I don't understyand how people can't see 3 pretty obvious things


1. Martiunez is a southpaW

2. Martinez is at least twice faster than Pavlik.

3. Martinez is much harder to hit and has a far superior defense to Pavlik.


There are no similiraties at all if you compare the styles and the two fighters. I

Also dont forget.....

Martinez was hitting Paul with shots he couldnt see coming........

He was turning Williams.........

Go watch the Winky fight....thats how Pul looks at 160 Pounds aginst guys who just stand in front of him........

Pavlik is tailor made for Williams.......Hell Hopkins looked like Pacman aginst Pavlik..lol.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

margarito didn't hit **** at will. Anyways lets bet on that fight. 2 million on the punisher.

lets make it 4mil...double on KO

rofl...thats pretty dumb...anyone whos seen espino fight expected just this kind of fight........

anyone that knows about staph infections and ring rust would know what to expect

I don't understand how people can't see 3 pretty obvious things


1. Martiunez is a southpaw

2. Martinez is at least twice faster than Pavlik. He throws punches from differewnt angles and hit Williams with punches he didn't see.

3. Martinez is much harder to hit and has a far superior defense to Pavlik.
There are no similiraties at all if you compare the styles and the two fighters. I

antonio margarito was none of those and he was able to tag Williams repeatedly...think about that for a minute

Also dont forget.....

Martinez was hitting Paul with shots he couldnt see coming........

He was turning Williams.........

Go watch the Winky fight....thats how Pul looks at 160 Pounds aginst guys who just stand in front of him........

Pavlik is tailor made for Williams.......Hell Hopkins looked like Pacman aginst Pavlik..lol.

this guy thinks Winky and Pavlik fight the same...trademark Burner dumbassery

[Spray_resistant]

His belt was not on the line so he risked nothing. Especially since so many people bought his ready made excuses for losing that fight. It's time for Pavlik to step up and fight a true middleweight challenger. He's been riding off the Jermaine Taylor win too long now.

Yeah like his belt being on the line really matters. If he would have lost he would not be viewed as a champion. Belts don't matter fans opinions and wins/losses do.