Kelly Pavlik sucks and is a Failure.

[street bully]

i just dont understand how people fail to realize these two points:

Paul Williams gets hit ALOT...Pavlik hits harder than Martinez


Martinez dropped Williams and buckled him on several occasions...

I also do not understand how people think Pavlik will have an easy time landing since he isn't close to Williams in terms of speed, and sure as hell isn't a craft southpaw who is a mover and provides angles and has good defense. Pavlik will be throwing the 1-2 all night, and he needs to KO Williams to win.

[Glamour Puss]

I also do not understand how people think Pavlik will have an easy time landing since he isn't close to Williams in terms of speed, and sure as hell isn't a craft southpaw who is a mover and provides angles and has good defense. Pavlik will be throwing the 1-2 all night, and he needs to KO Williams to win.

Exactly. Pavlik is slow as ***.

Martinez landed on Williams cuz' he's fast as ***.

Pavlik can't do what Martinez does. Two different classes of fighter.

[Jim Jeffries]

Exactly. Pavlik is slow as ***.

Martinez landed on Williams cuz' he's fast as ***.

Pavlik can't do what Martinez does. Two different classes of fighter.

If Martinez is so amazing, why has he never won a world title at 35 years of age?

[Glamour Puss]

If Martinez is so amazing, why has he never won a world title at 35 years of age?

He's 33. And he is a world champion.

At 154.

Dumb ****.

Even if he wasn't champion, any real boxing fan w/ a pair of eyes could see how good he is.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Pavlik doesn't have the fast and fluid movement that Martines has and is not able to cut the ring off as well as martinez could and tag you with punches. Pavlik will try to walk you down to land punches.

In other words it's going to be an exchanging war and Williams is going to get the best of it.. William's workrate is greater and I believe his hands are faster.

To answer your question man, Pavlik is no Martinez. The only thing he has over Martinez is poower. Marnitez has speed, movement, workrate, ability to punch and get away from you without being hit, and even better defense over Pavlik

I also do not understand how people think Pavlik will have an easy time landing since he isn't close to Williams in terms of speed, and sure as hell isn't a craft southpaw who is a mover and provides angles and has good defense. Pavlik will be throwing the 1-2 all night, and he needs to KO Williams to win.

Exactly. Pavlik is slow as ***.

Martinez landed on Williams cuz' he's fast as ***.

Pavlik can't do what Martinez does. Two different classes of fighter.

this still does not refute the fact that Williams gets hit


you ****ers are all yapping about Martinez but let me say this: Antonio Margarito and his slow, plodding ass HIT Williams at will...you do NOT NEED to be a world class slickster like Sergio to hit Williams


anyways, my girl came with a 30pack and has been waiting while i've been posting...we will continue this later when i'm drunk and high


GHOST >>>>> Puny-sher

[Jim Jeffries]

He's 33. And he is a world champion.

At 154.

Dumb ****.

He'll be 35 in two months. And has an INTERIM title. Genius.

Sabe INTERIM title?

And we won't know how good Martinez is until he fights someone better than Cintron (lol) at 54, or Williams at 160 (where he hasn't proven jack except outworking an old, inactive Winky.)

[Glamour Puss]

He'll be 35 in two months. And has an INTERIM title. Genius.

Sabe INTERIM title?

And we won't know how good Martinez is until he fights someone better than Cintron (lol) at 54, or Williams at 160 (where he hasn't proven jack except outworking an old, inactive Winky.)

LOL...And what has Pavlik done exactly?

Arguably lost the Taylor rematch and got decimated by a geriatric...

Martinez would smoke Pavlik like a cheap cigar.

[Manboyeatme]

common

I said this in another post but common man... You cant say he sucks, he may not be the number one middle weight but hes not far from it. It would be hard to name more then five guys in the middle weight division that would woop kelly, am i right?

[Manboyeatme]

oh and

Btw who really paid to see this? If you did what were you thinking.

[Jim Jeffries]

LOL...And what has Pavlik done exactly?

Arguably lost the Taylor rematch and got decimated by a geriatric...

Martinez would smoke Pavlik like a cheap cigar.

Well Pavlik, at 27, is just the undisputed MW champ.

Martinez, at 35, has a *cough* *cough* INTERIM belt, that he's never defended.

Though I actually like Martinez's chances against Pavlik better than Williams, all depends how his chin holds up.