Time to put an end to the "Manny put Cotto at a disadvantage with the weight.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Do you even know the initial catchweight that pac's team wanted to fight cotto at?

Doesn't matter what it was. Nobody cares either. It was a negotiating point. Miguel countered, accepted, and lost. End of story. He didn't have to take the fight just like he is choosing not to take the Golovkin fight.

[Beater_of_ass]

Doesn't matter what it was. Nobody cares either. It was a negotiating point. Miguel countered, accepted, and lost. End of story. He didn't have to take the fight just like he is choosing not to take the Golovkin fight.

He did have to take the fight or he was going to be stripped of his belt I believe. He was also under Top Rank and they tell you who to fight, he didn't have a choice at all. I do agree that Cotto accepted the terms, that doesn't mean making 145 didn't hurt him. You can't tell me he is better losing two pounds than gaining it.

[Vasyl’s dad]

He did have to take the fight or he was going to be stripped of his belt I believe. He was also under Top Rank and they tell you who to fight, he didn't have a choice at all. I do agree that Cotto accepted the terms, that doesn't mean making 145 didn't hurt him. You can't tell me he is better losing two pounds than gaining it.

Look back a few pages, Cotto himself said he was fine. He even said it immediately after the weigh in. Cotto came in at

146 vs Quintana
146.5 vs Judah
146.25 vs Mosley
146.50 vs Gomez
146 vs Clottey

Stop now. You look silly.

[Beater_of_ass]

Look back a few pages, Cotto himself said he was fine. He even said it immediately after the weigh in. Cotto came in at

146 vs Quintana
146.5 vs Judah
146.25 vs Mosley
146.50 vs Gomez
146 vs Clottey

Stop now. You look silly.

Of course he's going to say that after the weigh in, what do you expect someone to say before entering a fight? I'm so weak from not eating for 3 days to lose that extra 1-2 pounds...

I don't look silly, you sound ****** thinking losing extra weight doesn't negatively affect you. When you're a fat ****, obviously not, when you're a shredded piece of muscle already, it affects you. Did Cotto agree? Yes. Was he a better fighter because of it? No.

There is no excuse there, it's just reality of life. Nothing fanboy or nuthugging about it, simply science. Your defense to this is... Cotto said no, so it must be true. Then you'll agree Margarito had illegal wraps, he'd beat Floyd in a rematch and with Roach, Manny will beat Floyd.

[bigjavi973]

Doesn't matter what it was. Nobody cares either. It was a negotiating point. Miguel countered, accepted, and lost. End of story. He didn't have to take the fight just like he is choosing not to take the Golovkin fight.

so you don't know....

[Twako]

Of course he's going to say that after the weigh in, what do you expect someone to say before entering a fight? I'm so weak from not eating for 3 days to lose that extra 1-2 pounds...

I don't look silly, you sound ****** thinking losing extra weight doesn't negatively affect you. When you're a fat ****, obviously not, when you're a shredded piece of muscle already, it affects you. Did Cotto agree? Yes. Was he a better fighter because of it? No.

There is no excuse there, it's just reality of life. Nothing fanboy or nuthugging about it, simply science. Your defense to this is... Cotto said no, so it must be true. Then you'll agree Margarito had illegal wraps, he'd beat Floyd in a rematch and with Roach, Manny will beat Floyd.

cotto also said that AFTER the fight. look back a few pages to read the interview.

[George Orwell]

didnt realize it was #ButthurtRicanMonday

[Beater_of_ass]

cotto also said that AFTER the fight. look back a few pages to read the interview.

I don't need to read it after the fight either, because as I said it's science. You guys don't seem to be satisfied unless any Cotto fan is butthurt or offended that Manny lost. Yes, he lost he got beat from pillar to post it simply wasn't the best version of Cotto and the weight didn't help. That hurts your feelings more than me seeing Cotto get beat up, trust me lol.

[SkillspayBills]

I give the beating Marg gave Cotto more of an impact than the weight. Though Cotto himself says it was the weight. But so does Canelo about 152, it's just excuses at the end of the day.

[CatchAndShoot]

Cotto didn't even look drained when he was getting his ass kicked in the rounds past 2 and 3. The guy kept coming at Manny in every round after. I didn't see a Dawson/Ward situation at all.