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Time to put an end to the "Manny put Cotto at a disadvantage with the weight.

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  • Although miguel was in terrific shape, he did have to starve himself to make 145. Literally...starve himself. Thats kinda f'd up, and ultimately, there is a reason they wanted cotto at 145, and not 147, those pounds make a difference on a guy who already is cutting alot of weight.

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    • the 145 limit was due to cottos rehydration clause. i think its 10 pounds or so. roach knows what hes doing

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      • This thread is so funny. If it wasn't an issue they wouldn't ask for him to do it. geez.

        They are the experts and they felt as though making Cotto fight at 145 was to their benefit. You are not an expert and you're saying that it was not to their benefit.

        Makes no sense.

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        • Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
          Although miguel was in terrific shape, he did have to starve himself to make 145. Literally...starve himself. Thats kinda f'd up, and ultimately, there is a reason they wanted cotto at 145, and not 147, those pounds make a difference on a guy who already is cutting alot of weight.
          the guy would occasionally come in to 147 at 146, did he starve to make 146?
          unless by "starve" you mean not getting to eat his usual puddin desert after dinner everyday or somethin?

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          • Originally posted by AKM View Post
            He can still see those punches, different from the fast punches you cant see where to land. And clottey dont have punches the volume pac throws.
            Neither does Floyd, nor the power -- so you pic Cotto over Floyd by that logic right? He has some crappy punch output unless he is forced into a fight and in that case Cotto comes out winning most inside exchanges.

            The problem was that there was a limit on the fight and Cotto has little body fat -- one pound isn't easy -- Cotto wasn't focused on training to beat Pac, he has said himself he didn't even like boxing anymore at that point, he was mostly focused on not being over the 145 limit -- could have lost millions for weighting over the limit -- usually he had to be at 147 so he could afford not to worry himself and rehydrate normally -- he had no trainer -- the Cheato deamon in his head -- TOO MANY PHYSICAL EVEN PSYCHOLOGICAL DISADVANTAGES FOR A REALLY 100% FAIR FIGHT --

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            • Originally posted by DLT View Post
              If the one pound didnt matter then why take it? why not make it at 146 then?
              that's what I want to know

              Roach said in the lead up to the fight that they'd "Beat Cotto at any weight"

              then why fight Cotto @ a catchweight of 145 if you can "beat him at any weight"

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              • Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
                the guy would occasionally come in to 147 at 146, did he starve to make 146?
                unless by "starve" you mean not getting to eat his usual puddin desert after dinner everyday or somethin?
                Just going by what i saw on 24/7. By starving i mean cant eat anything but a salad....calorie deficit starving.

                Cotto had to be in great shpe to make 146-147. When you are in great shape as it is, its even harder to lose that extra 1-2lb without sacrificng something. Somethings gotta go. How many times had he weighed in at 145 when he was a WW?

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                • Originally posted by MJ406 View Post
                  that's what I want to know

                  Roach said in the lead up to the fight that they'd "Beat Cotto at any weight"

                  then why fight Cotto @ a catchweight of 145 if you can "beat him at any weight"
                  team pacquiao always makes sure the opponent is at a disadvantage in the ring.

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                  • This s**t is just old and most people are over it. The same moron bias posters on NSB posting the same s**t day after day. Grow the f**k up.

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                    • Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
                      Just going by what i saw on 24/7. By starving i mean cant eat anything but a salad....calorie deficit starving.

                      Cotto had to be in great shpe to make 146-147. When you are in great shape as it is, its even harder to lose that extra 1-2lb without sacrificng something. Somethings gotta go. How many times had he weighed in at 145 when he was a WW?
                      dont be so naive, by your logic pacquiao surely cannot make it below 144lb's, not 143, definitely not 142, since he is already in great shape

                      it's as simple as cutting out a few portions of a meal

                      are you really telling me cotto would kill himself to make 146? so to make 146 he is eating like a meal a day? wouldn't he just come in at 147 and maybe add another little meal? you really think he kills himself to make it 1lb below the limit? really?

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