Either Calzaghe is ATG, or Bhop should be dropped from Top 10

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  • KJB
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    #31
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
    I give Joe respect but he isn't an ATG, not even close.
    Bingo. And B-Hop is. Sorry Welshman.

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    • Main Source
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      #32
      Originally posted by Soir
      I was listening to those bozos on Horus's radio show the other night.

      They all collectively shat on Joe, while claiming BHOP to be a great fighter.
      Well, Bernard is a great fighter. What's your agenda?

      If you want Calzaghe to get credit then you should start respecting Hopkins for what he has accomplished.

      ****ing thread is bogus.
      Last edited by Main Source; 12-19-2009, 05:24 PM.

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      • jrosales13
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        #33
        Originally posted by Carnivore
        This one, your second post. You refuse to recognize Calzaghe because he's white.

        "I don't have Joe in the top 100 I don't care what nobody says."
        In this very own thread look at post 17. And, tell me when I refuse to recognize a white fighter. I could give a **** if Calzaghe was white, black, Asian, or Hispanic. He is not in the top 100. Yes he is ATG SMW. But, he is not in the top 100 all time fighters. Just no...

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        • Curtiz
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          #34
          its an AGE ting

          we all know calzaghe aint ****, waited till everybody was washed up then fought then or if not he fought bums

          BHOP is still cracking with calzaghe at 40+ , fightning for money no doubt ...

          BUT IF HE CAN LOOK GOOD AGAINST A HALL OF FAMER AT HIS AGE THEN SOMETHING IS UP

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          • S H O B O X
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            #35
            Originally posted by Carnivore
            It seems very obvious to me.

            People who hate white boxers will never give Calzaghe credit, no matter what, and will always seek to prove he really wasn't any good. It's because they deeply believe that all white boxers are inferior.
            eh .... no

            Originally posted by larry x
            joe-21 title defenses..won every belt at 168..moved up to 175 and won the ring belt.......why the hate???

            b-hop-20 title defenses won all the belts at 160-moved up and won the ring belt at 175

            sounds like 2 mirror image careers if you ask me

            the only differance you ask???ones american..and one isnt
            im confused at the calzaghe hate too , quite a lot of cal haters on this site talk as if he wasnt ever any good

            Originally posted by jrosales13
            He is not in my top 100. There are too many great fighters in the history of the sport to consider Joe top 100. He is a sure HOF'er without a doubt. But, not top 100.
            very sensible , i agree too

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              #36
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
              He constantly plays the race card. Has nothing to with Calzaghe being white.
              He is an idiot bro. And, I don't care about the race. But, whatever makes him happy. And, he knows I am not racist. Cuz I had his back with the who Bute>Ward rankings debate. I was on his side with that. It just took me off guard when he just called me a racist.

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              • Main Source
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                #37
                Originally posted by Soir
                I was listening to those bozos on Horus's radio show the other night.

                They all collectively shat on Joe, while claiming BHOP to be a great fighter.
                Originally posted by Carnivore
                It seems very obvious to me.

                People who hate white boxers will never give Calzaghe credit, no matter what, and will always seek to prove he really wasn't any good. It's because they deeply believe that all white boxers are inferior.
                And it's obvious to me (and the majority) that you cry-babies come with lame excuses every time this subject is brought up. Leave this race **** alone. Try to be a little more reasoned and objective.

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  He is an idiot bro. And, I don't care about the race. But, whatever makes him happy. And, he knows I am not racist. Cuz I had his back with the who Bute>Ward rankings debate. I was on his side with that. It just took me off guard when he just called me a racist.
                  Then he defends Klit2009 who calls people the N-word. Carnivore is probably the racist here.

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                  • P.WILL
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                    Lol! say wut?
                    Last Two Years
                    Williams
                    -Wright
                    -Quintana
                    -Phillips
                    -Martinez

                    Mayweather
                    -Marquez

                    Hopkins
                    -Pavlik
                    -Ornelas

                    Mosley
                    -Margarito
                    -Mayorga

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                    • 123tyson123
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                      #40
                      I have never been a huge fan of Calzaghe. But the more i watch him and the more i follow his career nobody can argue with his record. He fought some good fighters and ended his career on a high without losing his unbeaten record. I would have liked to see him be tested against a few current fighters but at 37 i can understand why he retired. The best super middleweight champion in history. ATG? why not.

                      And Hopkins is without doubt a ATG.

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