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Typical Mayweather talk. For his sake he better be paying attention to what kind of fighter Pacquiao is, if he doesn't he risks getting KTFO.
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So people, if PBF beats PAC by wide UD will you consider Floyd an ATG?Comment
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so people, you're already discarding the possibility of floyd winning by KO? great...Originally posted by Hiram Joel View Post
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I think some of you guys make valid points, when you say Mayweather has not fought the best competition at welter weight. I for one as a boxing fan, would have enjoyed a showdown between Floyd/Mosely/Cotto/Pwill/Margicheato/ or Berto. As a boxing fan, that would have been tremendous. But, it did not happen, regardless of who was at fault, the fans still missed out on a few good shows. So your points are valid, but when you match Mayweather overall skill set up against all of the above. I have hard time doubting that he could have beaten all of the above. As much as it may pain some to say, the unbiased trained eye can recognize that Floyd is special in the ring. Based on his his set of overall skills. That does not mean that he is beyond being whooped. But I understand both side of the debate. But truth be told, if and when he beats Pacman, people will say "Well, he could never do that to Shane Mosley". Then if and when he beats Mosley, people will say "Well he could have never done that to Pwill". And the list goes on, substitute any you want into that sentence. It becomes a never ending cycle. And in the process of being in that cycle, some lose focus on the fact that Floyd posses a gift in the ring that few have ever had. But at the same token, the fans want to see that gift on full display.Comment
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Interesting, here is a hint, I know from personal experience that fighters say things publicly and really have no idea what will happen. Once they step into those ropes. That is why you prepare yourself to the best of your ability and compete to the best of your ability. It's a simple mentality that the fight game develops, I know from actual ring experience. I am not sure if YOU understand this, maybe you do and maybe you don't. Quite frankly that is none of my concern. But I am sure you will never be able to comprehend this strictly through your keyboard and mouse!Originally posted by jetgeomcx View Postyou simply didn't get his drift, brah.!!
it's just like oscar knows he can whoop midget manny's ass.
and so does cotto...he knows manny has no chance against him.
and now here comes floyd.....do u understand now???
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As he came to Welterweight he fought the best WW had to offer... Judah held three titles and Margarito one... he fought Judah... he faught Baldomir who beat Judah who was the man before... I know some ppl hate on it... it's just facts dude... there was no Mosley at 47... there was no Cotto at 47... Berto was still a prospect... P-Will was still upcoming... none of these cats were top WW's with the exception of Margarito who held one title... so the only top WW he ain't fought was Margarito as he arrived...Originally posted by ncpitbull View Post
As Cotto moved up to 47 who says that he was the best... I always thought you had to derserve that in the ring or? He fought Quintana... Urkal... Judah (who obvisouly doesn't cound **** in these forums)... so at which point did he was the best??? At which point did his body of art said that he was the best... after the Mosley fight??? At the end of 2007...
Mosley came back down fought against Collazo ok... does that makes him the best WW? He lost to Cotto... moved back up to beat Mayorga and came back down to beat Margarito who was considered the best because he beat the man... and that was at the beginning of 2009 right?
Margarito? He was a title holder... managed to beat Clottey (who also lost to Baldomir)... and lost to Paul Williams... does that makes him the best? He finally arrived as the best after beating Cotto in mid 2008...
Berto as of now is a champion but still hasn't arrived as the best WW... he has his chance against Mosley now...
You see now that Cotto was about to be the best at the weight as May took a break from the sport... Mosley as Mayweather was away... and Margarito the same...
If you want Mayweather to proof that he is the best at the weight alright but then you also shouldn't forget that the others have to proof it themselves...
Mosley since been back at 47 did nothing to prove that claim besides of loosing to Cotto and just living off his name... until 2009... he needed 2 years congratulations...
Cotto fought good opposition and was considered the best after Mosley... which was more because of the name of Mosley then Mosley's latest results...
Margarito was just the best because he beat the best... he ain't did anything else that was spectacular besides of loosing to Williams, beating Clottey (which Baldomir and Cotto did as well), and loosing to Mosley
So as you see... it is simple... and don't start tripping about DLH and Hatton... Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Williams etc. would have taken them all day over Mayweather before DLH... you can bet your ass on it... just search how the big bad Mosley wanted to fight Hatton (I just recently heard the interview)... how the big bad Margarito begged like a b**** for a match with DLH after Floyd said no to a rematch... and and and...
Floyd fought the best at his time... they ain't Cotto or Mosley... but that isn't his fault... if Mosley wins impressive against Berto he will get his wish... IF he wins and not looses again... Cotto will move up to 54... Margarito will never come back big... P-Will will stay in higher waters... so there is only Mosley left... if he continues which is his right to decide... Mosley is the only one left... and now after all these years... this fight is bigger then ever... I still doubt that it will be a high PPV number... probably 1 Mil... I don't think that Mosley generates too much interestComment
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He is right. Nobody also Pacman can defeat Mayweather. With B-Hop, he is the king of the boxing world in all the weights.Comment
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I think you missed my point, entirely. What I was attempting to say is that because those fights never took place, some have reason to question who the best WW should be. How ever you look at it, how was coming up or down, in or out of the division, the fans are the one's who suffer because these arguments could have been settled in the ring. My real point was that fans still have reason to feel that Floyd could not beat a Mosely/Cott/Berto/ or Pwill. Due to the fact that we have not seen the answer in the ring. I am saying who would have won anything out this mix. Nor am I saying any party was at fault for these fights not happening. But if a Margarito fan tells you that he feels Marg could beat Floyd. How can you emphatically argue about something that never took place?Originally posted by jkaisen41 View PostComment
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You have David Haye in your avatar and you are talking about Bhop is the King of all weight classes???Originally posted by anti_duhring View Post
That does not belong in here! Somebody get this **** out here!
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I think its quite simple, if floyd had not dodged the biggest and toughest challenges at WW he would have 95 plus percent of his critics off his back for good. Floyd retired in 2007 with cotto, mosley and williams all looking for fights. If floyd had stepped up and beaten two of them like he should do he would not be in this position. Floyd bailed out of a stacked division and he just has to face the consequences for doing that. Hes a great fighter no doubt, but hes also a very good cherrypicker at WW. Plus his excuses like cotto needs to get his ppv numbers up are comical, cotto then loses his 0 against cheato but yet does great numbers against pac so there was nothing wrong with cottos potential numbers especially when he had his 0. Then floyd says he wants mosley in 2006 after vargas but now when the fight can be made he tells us mosley is a former roid user and he dosnt want him after all, but mosleys past was well known in 2006 as well floyd. These and other things dont do floyd any good imo
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