Southpaw > Floyd's shoulder roll

[crossybossy]

that advantage could be gone if zab accepts floyds offer as a sparring partner...

[Syf]

its rare, I think Ive seen him shoulder roll left and rights against n'dou, but he was just punching wildly.

Id like to see floyd try it, He'd have to be pretty quick to shoulder roll Manny, and from a stance he's not used to, it could actually work against him

he did shoulder roll lefts and rights from N'dou, but it was always from the orthodox stance, I think. Or a "neutral" stance off of the ropes....

You have a point about Floyd drowning himself in unfamiliar waters though..maybe best to stay with what he knows most

But then... Pac is not what he knows. Completely different fighter than anyone else Floyd has faced.. So I don't know

[Biolink]

A lot is made around here of how Floyd is going to deal with the Southpaw stance, and Manny's left hand.

If Floyd who's supposed to be a defensive guru is supposed to have problems with Manny's left, what will Manny do to counter Floyd's straight right? Manny has great foot speed and he can take a punch, but he's hardly sound defensively, at least in comparison to someone like Mayweather.

[oaklandstephen]

that advantage could be gone if zab accepts floyds offer as a sparring partner...

lol zabs been accepted floyds offer

[Killa_Kali]

thats not a shoulder roll

Philly Shell or Crab - The lead arm (left for an orthodox fighter and right for a southpaw) is placed across the torso usually somewhere in between the belly button and chest and the lead hand rests on the opposite side of the fighter's torso. The back hand is placed on the side of the face (right side for orthodox fighters and left side for southpaws). The lead shoulder is brought in tight against the side of the face (left side for orthodox fighters and right side for southpaws). This style is used by fighters who like to counterpunch. To execute this guard a fighter must be very athletic and experienced. This style is so effective for counterpunching because it allows fighters to slip punches by rotating and dipping their upper body and causing blows to glance off the fighter. After the punch glances off, the fighter's back hand is in perfect position to hit their out-of-position opponent. The shoulder lean is used in this stance. To execute the shoulder lean a fighter rotates and ducks (to the right for orthodox fighters and to the left for southpaws) when their opponents punch is coming towards them and then rotates back towards their opponent while their opponent is bringing their hand back. The fighter will throw a punch with their back hand as they are rotating towards their undefended opponent. James Toney and Floyd Mayweather Jr. execute the shoulder lean perfectly according to technique. The weakness to this style is that when a fighter is stationary and not rotating they are open to be hit so a fighter must be athletic and well conditioned to effectively execute this style. To beat this style, fighters like to jab their opponents shoulder causing the shoulder and arm to be in pain and to demobilize that arm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_styles_and_technique

[Killa_Kali]

lol zabs been accepted floyds offer

[Killa_Kali]

A lot is made around here of how Floyd is going to deal with the Southpaw stance, and Manny's left hand.

If Floyd who's supposed to be a defensive guru is supposed to have problems with Manny's left, what will Manny do to counter Floyd's straight right? Manny has great foot speed and he can take a punch, but he's hardly sound defensively, at least in comparison to someone like Mayweather.

pac has one of the most underrated body movements and footwork in boxing. true story.

[17scenes]

pac has one of the most underrated body movements and footwork in boxing. true story.

But couldnt avoid getting hit at will by Marquez.

[Killa_Kali]

But couldnt avoid getting hit at will by Marquez.

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yep.

[jkaisen41]

Mayweather > Southpaws