If Manny pressures FMJ he will win.

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  • SuperTrooper
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    #11
    Pac will need to set traps where he can unleash his combos because there is no way in hell Floyd will block all his punches especially coming from strange angles. Floyd will get his ass lit up if he goes toe to toe with Manny. He's gonna be countering all night just like in the Marquez fight to keep Pac at a distance. This fight is 50/50 to me, anybody can take it if they have a sound gameplan.

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    • El Castigador
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      #12
      Yeah becasue Manny is now all of sudden Aaron Pryor..get the **** out of here.

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      • Allucard
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        #13
        Originally posted by them_apples
        A southpaw who doesn't give Floyd any room will simple mess him up. He can't shoulder roll a straight left. If Pacquiao makes him fight all night Floyd will lose, nuff said.

        Pacquiao has the strength of Hatton, the speed of Judah and the workate of Castillo. As long as Pacquiao offensively assaults Mayweather for 12 rounds he's got it in the bag. Non of this "controlled ring generalship" - A guy like Pacquiao isn't going to be blinking every time Mayweather feints, nor is he going to sit his ass down in the middle of the ring and Let Floyd touch his belly with his jab.

        I don't think Floyd can take his punches and I'd be surprised if this fight goes 12 rounds.

        my reason being: Judah, a quick southpaw was fuqing him up for the first 5 rounds and it get's labelled as Mayweather adapting. WRONG, it was all Judah fading. He fades in all his fights. Pacquiao doesn't fade, and he's straight up better than Judah. I mean, at least Judah stayed in Floyds comfort zone.

        Most Floyd fans won't even read this and will conjure up some jargon explaining to me why i'm wrong, which if I am, will apologize.

        I think Floyds only way to win is if he can somehow run and clinch effectively against a man as strong and as skilled Pacquiao.
        What if Floyd is actually faster than Manny and put out an absolute clinic? As fast as Manny is, he's never been in with anyone near Floyd's caliber because there is none. That's Floyd advantage. Also Pacquiao doesn't have a defense and Floyd can land at ease.
        Only chance for Pacquiao is if Floyd finally shows his age and loses those split seconds which make him so good. Prime for prime everyone knows Floyd is just much much better.

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        • S A M U R A I
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          #14
          Originally posted by King Burner
          Yeah becasue Manny is now all of sudden Aaron Pryor..get the **** out of here.
          No, you get the **** out of here, you cheeky little thread ****ter.



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          • El Castigador
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            #15
            Like how he pressured JMM........great job.

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            • them_apples
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              #16
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i
              Seriously, it's refreshing to read something other than the usual "Manny will take the first four rounds, then Floyd will adapt and dominate, winning a UD".

              *Yawn.
              you honestly think a guy like Manny is going to lose the biggest fight of his career in dominating fashion? I mean the worst that could happen is it turns out looking like SRL vs Hagler (which I had Hagler winning).

              There is only one outcome and that will be Manny pounds on Floyds small frame and stops him. Unintelligent Boxing fans don't realize stylistic problems - and that would be the fact that Mayweathers coveted defense doesn't work against southpaws, which is why we saw the man get tagged badly in 2 of his fights with southpaws.

              Take a southpaw and put Manny Pacquiao in to fill that role, and you get a KO.

              Floyds only defense will be his legs and that's not going to be enough. Manny can only lose if you can beat him in a fight, and at this stage in his career nobody can because of the angles he throws at you (unless he moves up in weight).

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              • Shadow boxer 3
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                #17
                wow. u pac fans act like floyd doesnt even hav a chance. im a floyd fan but i can say this will be a tough fight for both fighters

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                • them_apples
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                  wow. u pac fans act like floyd doesnt even hav a chance. im a floyd fan but i can say this will be a tough fight for both fighters
                  nah I explained the chance Floyd has. I explained my reasoning. At least it's not based on mythical prowess that FMJ fans are always presenting. Keeping Pacquiao at bay with feints? FFS that might work for 1 round at best. Floyd will have to fight at some point, and when he does he's going to be seeing stars.

                  EDIT: I agree though, anything can happen at this level. I made this thread to counter all the pro FMJ and deluded ****. I'm 60/40 in favor of Pacquiao, who knows what Floyds gonna bring.
                  Last edited by them_apples; 12-18-2009, 10:11 PM.

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                  • Shadow boxer 3
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by them_apples
                    nah I explained the chance Floyd has. I explained my reasoning. At least it's not based on mythical prowess that FMJ fans are always presenting. Keeping Pacquiao at bay with feints? FFS that might work for 1 round at best. Floyd will have to fight at some point, and when he does he's going to be seeing stars.
                    how did JMM keep pac at bay? accurate counter punching. when pac would rush in he got tagged wit counters and it threw him off rhythm. floyds whole style is based on defensive and counters. he wants u to throw first. unlike cotto and hatton floyd knows how to fight going backwards. but like i said this will still be a tough fight. each fighter has their advantages

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                    • them_apples
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                      how did JMM keep pac at bay? accurate counter punching. when pac would rush in he got tagged wit counters and it threw him off rhythm. floyds whole style is based on defensive and counters. he wants u to throw first. unlike cotto and hatton floyd knows how to fight going backwards. but like i said this will still be a tough fight
                      JMM kept him at bay with brutal combinations. Manny can slip one punch, but 5? not many people can.

                      Wanna know why this won't work? because sure, yea he catches Manny coming in...then what? Marquez would catch Manny coming in, then he would back him up with 4 more punches. and he still lost. Marquez can fight when he has to, Floyd can't.

                      You are just secretly using the triangle theory here but it won't work. A 147 lb featherweight counter puncher isn't going to beat an opponent that fights on the back foot.

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