Brian Kenny: On Mayweather ducking Hatton/ Baldomir back then.

[Easy-E]

Floyd is kinda right though, I do not think that Kenney knows boxing that well.

Hatton beat the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy who you are fighting.

He is talking about how Hatton beat Zoo who beat Judah.
wtf?

[Easy-E]

But hatton had beaten everyone at 140 did he not for years and years? PBF jumps straight to Baldomir and becomes a great man at that weight 147 somehow without fighting Cotto, SSM and Marge.

See, this is the problem. People forget who was the "man" in 05.
Cotto was about to have his FIRST FIGHT at 147.
Mosley had just had his second fight against Vargas at 154.
Marg was fighting the Alfonso Gomez's of the world.

None of these guys were even in the top welterweight picture.

[hugh grant]

See, this is the problem. People forget who was the "man" in 05.
Cotto was about to have his FIRST FIGHT at 147.
Mosley had just had his second fight against Vargas at 154.
Marg was fighting the Alfonso Gomez's of the world.

None of these guys were even in the top welterweight picture.

But PBF only just become the man at WW at 147 against a man who lost 8 times before.
PBF fighting the man hatton at 140 who was also unbeaten at 140. Why do ppb lovers make out weight isnt an issue when it suits them. Boxing is all about weight classes. But it dont matter in this case.
PBF would get more credit for beating hatton at 140. Just like SRL would have got more credit at beating Duran at lightweight. Hagler beating Duran at middleweight isnt much of a big deal in boxing history. Hagler got the name but not really the acclaim. Anything great hagler ever did, was not made by beating duran at middleweight.

Just agree with me and i'll let it go. PBF would have got more acclaim for beating hatton at 140 in manchester. All you have to do is agree. But he had his reasons for not fighting Hatton in manchester at 140 am i right.? Whether the reason that Hatton ducked him at the time isnt the issue im on about or isnt even important. Im just saying PBF would have got more credit! Dont reply to me.

[COACH WEBB]

THIS was the reality before those fights. Now, since Floyd made easy work of both, its easy to say those wins mean nothing and those fighters suck. Back then they were the biggest challenges to his crown.
People forget because they want to forget without giving Floyd credit for making fights with the biggest contenders.

exactly man...prefight is so much different than postfight...you hear me?

[COYS]

somebody needs to show this to brian kenny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0bJJaqdHPg

[PrettyBoy22]

It's quite funny when you watch this video. BK and other boxing fans were berating MM for "ducking" Baldo and Ricky- yet after he fights and kicks both their asses- they say "oh it wasn't a great win- both were over-rated fighters"

[Easy-E]

But PBF only just become the man at WW at 147 against a man who lost 8 times before.
PBF fighting the man hatton at 140 who was also unbeaten at 140. Why do ppb lovers make out weight isnt an issue when it suits them. Boxing is all about weight classes. But it dont matter in this case.
PBF would get more credit for beating hatton at 140. Just like SRL would have got more credit at beating Duran at lightweight. Hagler beating Duran at middleweight isnt much of a big deal in boxing history. Hagler got the name but not really the acclaim. Anything great hagler ever did, was not made by beating duran at middleweight.

Just agree with me and i'll let it go. PBF would have got more acclaim for beating hatton at 140 in manchester. All you have to do is agree. But he had his reasons for not fighting Hatton in manchester at 140 am i right.? Whether the reason that Hatton ducked him at the time isnt the issue im on about or isnt even important. Im just saying PBF would have got more credit! Dont reply to me.

Were you around when Floyd offered to fight Hatton in Manchester at 140? The Hatton camp did not want it. They did not feel as though they were ready for Floyd. The Cotto camp said the same at 140, and then Floyd moved to 147. Hattons team had a three fight US plan to increase marketibility and garner experience before fighting Floyd.
Again, people forget this because they choose to.

[sycomantz]

Does it really matter? Morales wasnt the guy he was at 122 and at 126 when he moved to 130. Morales first fight with pac was the last great fight he had left in him and will always be his signature win IMO and is what makes him an all time great. Basically beating a young hungry prime fighter when had clearly lost a step in countless featherweight wars and was fighting above what would be considered his best weight.

Pointing to pac as the reason Morales slowed down isnt correct at all, if thats the case we also have to look at how much Raheem took away from Morales, whom got to him before Pac was able to beat him. Which would be ******. Looking at it from a proper perspective, Morales was fighting on borrowed time against pac from the moment he accepted the fight.

EM and MAB, beat the primes out of one another

[sycomantz]

SSM turned down fights with Floyd at lw, Arum turned down Floyd's offer (for Cotto) at 140 also.

its seriously amazing to me that idiots on this board want to say floyd is a ducker.

they hate the fact that this man is so great and was avoided by many fighters.
s
this board is a disgrace to boxing in alot of way s

[sycomantz]

THIS was the reality before those fights. Now, since Floyd made easy work of both, its easy to say those wins mean nothing and those fighters suck. Back then they were the biggest challenges to his crown.
People forget because they want to forget without giving Floyd credit for making fights with the biggest contenders.

co-sign. and this will continue. they are going to say it after he beats pac too.

there is no way pac is higher than floyd on the ATG list. especially when you factor in the way he(floyd) was avoided, he moved throough the weight classes and people still avoided him, and how he outclassed everyone

in contrast to pac fighting his biggest names when they were on the other side of their primes or were plain ole shot

floyd is just to far ahead of this era of boxers...period