Greatest heavyweight ever...realistically?

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Says the guy with Joe Frazier in his avatar lmao

You have Justin Bieber in your avatar. You are in NO position to be making fun of other people's avatars.

[New England]

Says the guy with Joe Frazier in his avatar lmao

says a blatant alt. dude, you have a freaking bieber avatar. give it a rest. nobody thinks you're a real person.

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Today's HWs are in better shape? Yeah, Fury, Ruiz Jr, and Arreola are in real good shape.

There were obese fighters in Ali's day (and he fought them), but like most of his diehard fans I doubt you've watched any of his fights.

The difference is Fury is a giant and these were just normal random fat guys.

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says a blatant alt. dude, you have a freaking bieber avatar. give it a rest. nobody thinks you're a real person.

A "real person"? I'm a guy on a forum. And yeah, good eye, I'm not actually a Justin Bieber fan. Busted.

Did you find that source yet?

[New England]

http://www.dog..houseboxing.com/DHB/Tyler012010.htm


get rid fo the two dogs between "dog" and "house."


that is an interview with a top flgiht boxing historian. heres' the important part, if you don't want to read it all and learn anything:

"Today there are less than half the number of professional fighters that there was in 1955. In the 1920's there were more professional fighters licensed in New York city than there are licensed in the entire world today."



he's promoting a book called "the arc of boxing," so he must be taken with a grain of salt, but he backs up what he says [his thesis,] with data and research.



it's very obvious to anybody without an agenda that the talent in boxing, especially at HW, has gone down. boxing's just not as popular as it used to be. it used to be the most popular sport in teh country. jack dempsey used to do 100K at the gate consistently. that's a lot of people.


boxing used to have local followings, and operated successfully at the club and local level. it had a middle class. today, boxers are almost exclusively of the "day job" variety. it's only a tiny fraction of all boxers that box for a living without any other means of supplementing income.

[New England]

A "real person"? I'm a guy on a forum. And yeah, good eye, I'm not actually a Justin Bieber fan. Busted.

Did you find that source yet?

i posted a link that you surely won't read.


i'm guessing that you're the loser who created an alt specifically for the purpose of following me around the lounge

[LacedUp]

Ali could not even make Geroge Foreman look like a mummy, an opponent who could barely box!

How the **** is he gonna make Wladimir bloody Klitschko look like one?

seriously

This Old Time Nut Bag business is getting out of hand. There should be a rule on posting geriatric comments in NSB.

As if the two styles are similar

Klitschko was scared of going after Fastfood Eddie chambers ffs. The guy doesn't like to fight at all. He would stick out his stinking jab and Ali would dance circles around him like it was a sparring session.

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As much as I'd like to say "Oh well I was wrong, goodbye", I can't believe that for even a second.

Jack Dempsey's 100,000 live gates were nothing compared to the 2+ million buyer PPVs today. The preferred viewing format has merely changed. Sneaky logic but not sneaky enough to actually work.

The same selective absence of information is likely behind the New York vs entire world today licensing concept. I would be interested in 1. How difficult it was to get a boxing license in 1920 compared to now and 2. How he managed to tally up the total number of licensed boxers on Earth (he didn't).

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i posted a link that you surely won't read.


i'm guessing that you're the loser who created an alt specifically for the purpose of following me around the lounge

I don't even post in the lounge. Maybe 1-2 times then forgot. Are you on drugs?

[New England]

As much as I'd like to say "Oh well I was wrong, goodbye", I can't believe that for even a second.

Jack Dempsey's 100,000 live gates were nothing compared to the 2+ million buyer PPVs today. The preferred viewing format has merely changed. Sneaky logic but not sneaky enough to actually work.

The same selective absence of information is likely behind the New York vs entire world today licensing concept. I would be interested in 1. How difficult it was to get a boxing license in 1920 compared to now and 2. How he managed to tally up the total number of licensed boxers on Earth (he didn't).

so you've got no evidence to the contrary, but we're supposed to believe you over a published author and boxing historian?


the "i was wrong, goodbye," line would be your best bet.