Comments Thread For: Roach Talks Pacquiao/Steroids, Mayweather's Weight, More

[FLY TY]

i think youre the one who's really funny...making comparison of a normal job with boxing is a kind of dumb......as what roach said they are willing to take
the test a month and a half before,although it will not affect manny physically but mentally maybe.....and on weight issue,what roach said is..,,,you have to follow the signed contract and i dont see any problem with that...and one thing they didnt force dlh or cotto to make those weight they signed the conract weight so it means they agree....i hope you understand how importanht the signed contract is.....and being a man you have to follow the rules........not to make overweight if you wanted.....

I forgot….on B.S., you have to be very simple when you post b/c idiots don’t understand analogies, and comparisons…..

I brought up the “real” job thing, to simply point out that there are drug tests for regular jobs, random ones too….random meaning “they don’t tell you when they’re going to test you, they surprise you.”

What does that have to do with boxing? Not much….but in this situation, in particular, they are applying DRUG TESTS, just like a job does. My whole point in comparing the 2, is that I don’t do drugs, so I’ve never been MENTALLY AFFECTED, when I’ve had to be drug tested.

Furthermore, it seems odd, that camp pacquiao would only agree to tests, but only up to a certain point before the fight….the excuse, is that it DOESN’T PHYSICALLY affect manny, it MENTALLY affects him.

How is someone MENTALLY affected by a drug test, if they don’t do drugs?

I don't understand the weight thing. Unless, Floyd is playing hard ball to get a weight advantage or something, which I still don't get because PBF is great at 147. 147 should be the weight period. I don't believe pac is on the juice but it is somewhat su****ious that they wouldn't agree to the blood test. 6 weeks is ample time to get his "mentality" back up to par... and like the Coach said Floyd had Grant gloves not reyes.. I think he had Reyes in the ODLH fight because ODLH demanded it.

Sorry, guys. This is the first time I'm posting from my blackberry. Not sure how this will look. Sitting in an airport.

I don't know what Roach is trying to hide -if anything- but his statement that they don't take blood during the Olympics is wrong. The amount taken is tiny and has zero physical effect on the athlete.

How can it affect Manny "mentally"?!

There is something odd here.

that's all i'm saying......it's a little "odd."

if it was mayweather giving these excuses, he'd already be labeled by 75% of this forum, as a "cheater," "with something to hide."

[TOBYLEE1]

hhmmmm....i hope you can read all the post here with your blackberry.....not all athlets the same.....maybe manny having some kind of trauma when it comes to blood....we dont know if thats really affects him mentally so why force him??

Really? He is in the hurt business and I didn't see him having problems when he makes his opponents bleed or he has bled himself. Let analize this a needle for a little blood 6 weeks before the fight or lose $20 million plus...

[IMDAZED]

“I will not let anyone take blood from many weeks before the fight, because it will MENTALLY affect him.” - Freddie roach

What????????

If it has no PHYSICAL affects, I don’t understand how it’ll have MENTAL affects…..unless there’s something to hide….

Not saying manny’s on something, because in my honest opinion, he IS NOT…..but the more his people open their mouths about this topic, the more damage they do.

Pretty obvious IMO.

[MoneyM.]

It will mentally affect Pacquiao, because they will be worried if they will get busted or not by the blood test. A urine test can't detect the drugs that they give Pacquiao, which is why that type of testing is ok by Roach.

Roach wants Pac to have confidence that the steroids he takes won't be detected, which is why he said it would affect him "Mentally" if proper testing was done before the fight.

[Vasyl’s dad]

and why is this even an issue in the first place?



Because some idiot is speculating.

Maybe he seen his own sons rise due to drugs?

As they say, "it takes one to know one".

[FLY TY]

It will mentally affect Pacquiao, because they will be worried if they will get busted or not by the blood test. A urine test can't detect the drugs that they give Pacquiao, which is why that type of testing is ok by Roach.

Roach wants Pac to have confidence that the steroids he takes won't be detected, which is why he said it would affect him "Mentally" if proper testing was done before the fight.

once again....i don't believe manny's on something, but i agree with your post.

this is what roach is making it seem like....if pac is clean, agree to the tests, let's do the fight.....don't understand this "mentally affected" thing....

[bunnybounce]

I forgot….on B.S., you have to be very simple when you post b/c idiots don’t understand analogies, and comparisons…..

I brought up the “real” job thing, to simply point out that there are drug tests for regular jobs, random ones too….random meaning “they don’t tell you when they’re going to test you, they surprise you.”

What does that have to do with boxing? Not much….but in this situation, in particular, they are applying DRUG TESTS, just like a job does. My whole point in comparing the 2, is that I don’t do drugs, so I’ve never been MENTALLY AFFECTED, when I’ve had to be drug tested.

Furthermore, it seems odd, that camp pacquiao would only agree to tests, but only up to a certain point before the fight….the excuse, is that it DOESN’T PHYSICALLY affect manny, it MENTALLY affects him.

How is someone MENTALLY affected by a drug test, if they don’t do drugs?







that's all i'm saying......it's a little "odd."

if it was mayweather giving these excuses, he'd already be labeled by 75% of this forum, as a "cheater," "with something to hide."

Are you a laboratory doctor or something? it is plain and simple. Don't act like you all know everything.

[bunnybounce]

It will mentally affect Pacquiao, because they will be worried if they will get busted or not by the blood test. A urine test can't detect the drugs that they give Pacquiao, which is why that type of testing is ok by Roach.

Roach wants Pac to have confidence that the steroids he takes won't be detected, which is why he said it would affect him "Mentally" if proper testing was done before the fight.

Here goes another DOCTOR QUACK QUACK. Your prediction is baseless, idiot!

[MoneyM.]

Another angle could be...

Roach is worried that Pacquiao is on steroids. He doesn't trust Ariza after his recent comments that, "Only I know what Pacquiao takes, I'm the one who gives him the stuff".

Roach and Pacquiao are starting to question Ariza's "stuff" and fear that a blood test would reveal the steroids. It would mentally affect Pacquiao wondering why Ariza suddenly stopped giving him the "stuff" in preparation for the blood test. The urine testing won't reveal the "stuff" that Ariza gives Pacquiao so it wouldn't mentally affect him.

Ariza said getting Pacquiao just to take the supplements was a major accomplishment.

"I think Freddie will attest to it," Ariza said. "It was a huge step for Manny. He doesn't know a lot about those things, but over time he's grown confident in what I am giving him. We've passed every test there is. Manny takes nothing illegal. Mayweather can say whatever he wants.

They've passed every drug test which doesn't detect the "stuff" that he *could* be giving him. Now is the time to take the real Olympic style blood test, and suddenly they "don't want to, because it would affect him mentally"... hmmmmm

[paylapz83]

I forgot….on B.S., you have to be very simple when you post b/c idiots don’t understand analogies, and comparisons…..

I brought up the “real” job thing, to simply point out that there are drug tests for regular jobs, random ones too….random meaning “they don’t tell you when they’re going to test you, they surprise you.”

What does that have to do with boxing? Not much….but in this situation, in particular, they are applying DRUG TESTS, just like a job does. My whole point in comparing the 2, is that I don’t do drugs, so I’ve never been MENTALLY AFFECTED, when I’ve had to be drug tested.

Furthermore, it seems odd, that camp pacquiao would only agree to tests, but only up to a certain point before the fight….the excuse, is that it DOESN’T PHYSICALLY affect manny, it MENTALLY affects him.

How is someone MENTALLY affected by a drug test, if they don’t do drugs?







that's all i'm saying......it's a little "odd."

if it was mayweather giving these excuses, he'd already be labeled by 75% of this forum, as a "cheater," "with something to hide."

not all people are the same,also with boxers....although they are warriors but there are some aspects that they are weak.....and this is not the first time manny complains blood testing before the fight reaaly affects him.....the morales 1 i hope you recall it....