Who has defeated more fighters in their PRIME: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

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  • miron_lang
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    #131
    Originally posted by El Jesus
    Oscar Larios was totally finished after he fought vasquez for that third time, people had been calling for him to retire for years and in reality that was a stay busy fight. Jorge Solis and Hussein arent that great at all, Jorge's brother is another story.

    If im not mistaken Larios won one of those bull**** international belts i think but that was about it. Genaro was undefeated at 130 before he fought floyd, his only loss came at the hands of a young de la hoya one division up, thats why that fight was so signifigant, not to mention floyd was an underdog and had only been pro about a year and a half.
    ok on the other parts.

    But why include corley and not Hussein, Velasquez and Solis?

    Arent they prime? that's what im asking why include Corley and not the others?


    Note:
    -Larios won the Regular WBC Featherweight Championship.
    -Hernandez fight was significant but were talking about prime here.


    EDIT :


    I got the Corley part. I didnt realize that it was him before Judah


    Done
    Last edited by miron_lang; 12-17-2009, 04:32 AM.

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    • -EAGLE-
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      #132
      if you punks don't give Pac credit for beating Barrera; why do you give Khan credit for beating Barrera?

      hypocrites!!!

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        #133
        Originally posted by miron_lang
        The Legends

        Marco Antonio Barrera - One of the best pound for pound fighters in the world and Linear Featherweight champion. - TKO11, UD12

        Erik Morales - 3 Division champion. One of the best pound for pound fighters. TKO10, KO3

        Juan Manuel Marquez - Former Featherweight, S. Feather and Lightweight Champion - SD12

        Oscar DelaHoya - 6 Division World Champion. TKO8




        The Champions


        Miguel Cotto
        - Considered the #2 Welterweight behind Mosley whom he beat. 3 Time, 2 Division Champion. TKO12

        Ricky Hatton - Linear Champion at 140. Undefeated at 140. KO2

        Oscar Larios - 2 Weight Division champion. A champion before and after Pac - UD

        Chatchai Sasakul - A linear Flyweight champion and has legendary status in Thailand. TKO8

        Lehlohonolo Ledwabba
        - The best 122lbs fighter at the time. p4p fighter Top 15. TKO6

        David Diaz - Kayoed Sta. Cruz who beat Cassamayor but lost in the cards. TKO 9

        Jorge Elicier Julio - 2 Time World Champion never been stopped before. KO2





        The Contenders



        Jorge Solis - Undefeated chalenger (33-0). Fought for World title TKO8

        Nedal Hussein - Title chalenger. Very tough and dirty fighter. TKO10

        Hector Velasquez - A class A journeyman TKO6

        Emmanuel Lucero - Undefeated chalenger TKO3

        Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym - 2 time Championship chalenger KO1
        The Legends

        Juan Manuel Marquez - Former Featherweight, S. Feather and Lightweight Champion - UD12

        Oscar DelaHoya - 6 Division World Champion. SD12

        The Champions

        Ricky Hatton - Linear Champion at 140. Undefeated at 140. KO10

        Carlos Baldomir – Undisputed 147 Champ. UD12

        Zab Judah – 2 div. Champ (Undisputed 147 Champ) UD12

        Sharmba Mitchell – former champ TKO6

        Arturo Gatti – two division champ RTR06

        DeMarcus Corley – former champ UD12

        Jose Luis Castillo – was regarded the best champ at 135 – UD+UD

        Jesus Chavez – former two div. Champ – RTD09

        Carlos Hernandez – former champ – UD12

        Diego Corrales – former two div. Champ – TKO10

        Gregorio Vragas – former two div. Champ – UD12

        Genaro Hernandez – former champ – RTD08


        The Contenders


        Victoriano Sosa – challenged for a title twice

        Emanuel Augustus – how do you say – good journeyman *lol*

        Angel Manfredy – legitimate challenger for the title over years

        I don’t know which guys were ranked P4P or where never been knocked out before etc. I’m not taking notes on everything as you did about Pacquiao...

        I’m sure I even forget some of Mayweathers accomplishments... but like said... he easily holds his own

        I'm not doubting that these guys that I don't know where good... they were but I though we talking about the greats... they were good I'm not bashing it but it were 2 guys... that doesn't change the whole picture

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          #134
          Originally posted by jkaisen41
          The Legends

          Juan Manuel Marquez - Former Featherweight, S. Feather and Lightweight Champion - UD12

          Oscar DelaHoya - 6 Division World Champion. SD12

          The Champions

          Ricky Hatton - Linear Champion at 140. Undefeated at 140. KO10

          Carlos Baldomir – Undisputed 147 Champ. UD12

          Zab Judah – 2 div. Champ (Undisputed 147 Champ) UD12

          Sharmba Mitchell – former champ TKO6

          Arturo Gatti – two division champ RTR06

          DeMarcus Corley – former champ UD12

          Jose Luis Castillo – was regarded the best champ at 135 – UD+UD

          Jesus Chavez – former two div. Champ – RTD09

          Carlos Hernandez – former champ – UD12

          Diego Corrales – former two div. Champ – TKO10

          Gregorio Vragas – former two div. Champ – UD12

          Genaro Hernandez – former champ – RTD08


          The Contenders


          Victoriano Sosa – challenged for a title twice

          Emanuel Augustus – how do you say – good journeyman *lol*

          Angel Manfredy – legitimate challenger for the title over years

          I don’t know which guys were ranked P4P or where never been knocked out before etc. I’m not taking notes on everything as you did about Pacquiao...

          I’m sure I even forget some of Mayweathers accomplishments... but like said... he easily holds his own

          I'm not doubting that these guys that I don't know where good... they were but I though we talking about the greats... they were good I'm not bashing it but it were 2 guys... that doesn't change the whole picture

          lol


          that's a good one


          props mate

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            #135
            Originally posted by BennyST
            Ledwaba was **** but Sasakul was a very good fighter man. That's a good win for Pac. He was a top fighter and champion before and after Pac. Ledwaba wasn't very good before Pac and retired straight after. He wasn't much to begin with.

            Sasakul was better than Jesus 'El Matador' Chavez though. Chavez is a D. Diaz level guy. Though if they fought years ago Chavez would have whipped him.

            Their resumes are very similar in all reality.
            Like I said I don't doubt that... but these are two or how you see it one fighter on top of that... that doesn't equals May's whole body of art... the names does...

            I don't know I personally think he is way better then D. Diaz... ever watch the fight with Morales? Morales gave Diaz life and death and that was even after Pacquiao III... Chavez fought a good Morlales... hurt him the first... went down in 3rd I believe and battled with him throughout... and lost a close decision... Famoso also fought Morales if I can remember right and wasn't so bad...

            I was just responding to a guy who said that Morales, Barrera etc. would murder Floyd's opponents... it was not to bash them or question their greatness... just how they performed against the guys who they were supposed to slaughter.

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              #136
              Originally posted by El Jesus
              Oscar Larios was totally finished after he fought vasquez for that third time, people had been calling for him to retire for years and in reality that was a stay busy fight. Jorge Solis and Hussein arent that great at all, Jorge's brother is another story.

              If im not mistaken Larios won one of those bull**** international belts i think but that was about it. Genaro was undefeated at 130 before he fought floyd, his only loss came at the hands of a young de la hoya one division up, thats why that fight was so signifigant, not to mention floyd was an underdog and had only been pro about a year and a half.
              Impressive for a young cat to do to Ganero what Mayweather did. El Jesus, what you think about Antonio DeMarco?

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                #137
                Originally posted by miron_lang
                lol


                that's a good one


                props mate
                No problem dude... if you wanted with me you can have it *looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool*

                I love boxing and I learn each and every day new... I don't know who these two guys are and I'm not trying act that I do you know... I don't doubt that they were good if you say so... but I don't think that they belong in the Morales etc. class or??? That's all I'm saying...

                Floyd ain't fought such big names but ppl forget how many good fighter and champions he actually fought you know... all I'm saying

                But everybody can have his opinion

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by jkaisen41
                  Famoso also fought Morales if I can remember right and wasn't so bad...
                  He looks bad in that fight Morales shuts him out. Morales won some fans because of that fight.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by miron_lang
                    He looks bad in that fight Morales shuts him out. Morales won some fans because of that fight.
                    Alright... then I must be mistaken sorry... but about Chavez I'm 100% sure *looooooooooooooool*

                    Ever seen Floyd against him... it was some ugly ****... after the 7th round on I believe Floyd almost fought him with no hands... he hurt both hands... that was ridicilous *looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool*

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                      #140
                      Floyd fans listen up! I simplify it for you.

                      Pacman
                      7 tiltles in 7 different weight divisions- First in boxing history!
                      4 lineal titles in 4 different weight divisions-First in boxing history!
                      Pro from 106 up to 147-First in boxing history!
                      Pac fought 4 legends -the likes of Barrera, JMM, Morales on their prime and Oscar (except him) against Floyd-old overweight JMM and way past his prime Oscar.

                      Floyd
                      ? first in boxing history
                      ? first in boxing history
                      ? first in boxing history
                      ? legends
                      Last edited by whirlwind; 12-17-2009, 07:20 AM.

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