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  • Calilloyd
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    #31
    Originally posted by them_apples
    Leonard by Ud. But still, you people are so rediculous when it comes to rating newer fighters.





    Leonard lost to Duran, who was about Pacquiaos size and fought similarly (he was a tiny bit bigger, but not as quick). It's not like Leonard would dominate Pacquiao.

    Pacquiao and Duran share very similar traits. Fast feet, tons of heart and a sneaky offense (lots of feints and head movement) .
    Man just stop. Seriously. This is the second time I've seen you post this type of bull****. First it was "Pernell Whitaker did nothing great other than make people miss with no offense". I've seen both fighters and with that said Pacquiao can not beat Leonard at 147. In no way,shape, or form. He's not knocking him out and he's damn sure not outpointing him. Leonard was even faster than Pacquiao and hit harder too. Leonard would have knocked Cotto out. Leonard is one of the best ever at 147 and no lower than top 3. He stopped fighters like Tommy Hearns, Wilfred Benitez and Duran. All three are all time greats. This is no knock on pac but he hasnt done **** at 147 to indicate he could beat Leonard or even compete with him.. Pacquaio and Duran are nothing alike. In terms of defense it's not even close. Duran would have chewed Cotto up and spit him out without a scatrch.You go the extremes the other way by underrating anybody who fought before the year 2000.

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      #32
      Originally posted by BennyST
      Leonard's style is very different from Mayweather's. Very different. Leonard has more fire power than Pac and would use it against him. Mayweather will fight a defensive fight. Leonard would fight an offensive fight.

      He would get jabbed to death and caught with a quick flurry, and a big left hook and go down for the count.
      That is what I think also. That is why I didn't get why he tried to compare Floyd and Leonard style.

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      • miron_lang
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        #33
        In reality. Leonard is too big god dammit he started at Welterweight and still competitive at 168. 147 is even a stretch for Pacquiao. Leonard by TKO


        In Mythical p4p where they are the same size Pac by KO.

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        • Calilloyd
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          #34

          LOL at the people who picked Pacquiao.

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          • Kevin Jesus
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            #35
            Originally posted by them_apples
            Leonard by Ud. But still, you people are so rediculous when it comes to rating newer fighters.

            Leonard lost to Duran, who was about Pacquiaos size and fought similarly (he was a tiny bit bigger, but not as quick). It's not like Leonard would dominate Pacquiao.

            Pacquiao and Duran share very similar traits. Fast feet, tons of heart and a sneaky offense (lots of feints and head movement) .
            You fail to realize that Leonard purposely fought Duran toe to toe the first time.

            If prime Leonard fights his own fight then he's unbeatable, not even Paul Williams could handle a prime Leonard(when he chooses to box).

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            • JAB5239
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              #36
              Originally posted by Calilloyd

              LOL at the people who picked Pacquiao.

              I usually skip over the trolls and blind nuthuggers, but this was a short thread so I read all the posts. My god are there some shameless morons out there!!

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              • JAB5239
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                #37
                Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
                You fail to realize that Leonard purposely fought Duran toe to toe the first time.

                If prime Leonard fights his own fight then he's unbeatable, not even Paul Williams could handle a prime Leonard(when he chooses to box).

                Apples is my boy, but he also forgot that Durans defense was vastly superior to Manny's.

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                • them_apples
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Calilloyd
                  Man just stop. Seriously. This is the second time I've seen you post this type of bull****. First it was "Pernell Whitaker did nothing great other than make people miss with no offense". I've seen both fighters and with that said Pacquiao can not beat Leonard at 147. In no way,shape, or form. He's not knocking him out and he's damn sure not outpointing him. Leonard was even faster than Pacquiao and hit harder too. Leonard would have knocked Cotto out. Leonard is one of the best ever at 147 and no lower than top 3. He stopped fighters like Tommy Hearns, Wilfred Benitez and Duran. All three are all time greats. This is no knock on pac but he hasnt done **** at 147 to indicate he could beat Leonard or even compete with him.. Pacquaio and Duran are nothing alike. In terms of defense it's not even close. Duran would have chewed Cotto up and spit him out without a scatrch.You go the extremes the other way by underrating anybody who fought before the year 2000.
                  who said he would win? i said Leonard would win. I disagree with your rampant exaggeration though.

                  just like "sweet pea would make a fool of him". Just like anybody with a name would "make a fool of him". FFS, even fighters around today, people say will make a fool of him.

                  People said cotto would stop him with the first punch he lands. Oscar would kill him. Now FMJ will make a fool of him. come fight night, FMJ is either going to win by the skin of his teeth or he's going to get straight up stopped.

                  Leonard wins a Ud over Pacquiao.

                  Yes Duran has better defense. But he wasn't better at everything. Many is quicker and uses even MORE angles than Duran, which is saying a lot, since Duran was very awkward to fight. Pacquiao is also a southpaw.

                  I know it seems like nuthugging but it get's irritating seeing every single fighter that Pacquiao is pitted up against as a "one sided domination".
                  Last edited by them_apples; 12-17-2009, 03:05 AM.

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                  • miron_lang
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    I usually skip over the trolls and blind nuthuggers, but this was a short thread so I read all the posts. My god are there some shameless morons out there!!

                    Hey what the fu_ck might as well

                    Match Marvin Hagler againts Mike Tyson. Leonard is too dam big and good for Pacquiao.

                    But what if Pacquiao is the same size as leonard? I'll bet my life on Pacquiao if they are the same size bro. One shot and it could change everything.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by miron_lang
                      Hey what the fu_ck might as well

                      Match Marvin Hagler againts Mike Tyson. Leonard is too dam big and good for Pacquiao.

                      But what if Pacquiao is the same size as leonard? I'll bet my life on Pacquiao if they are the same size bro. One shot and it could change everything.

                      Fair enough. But Tommy Hearns was bigger than Ray, hit harder than Pac (imo) and was a better boxer and Ray still overcame him. Pac is great, but he really hasn't done enough at 147 to warrant this comparison in my opinion.

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