Poll: Pacquiao vs. Leonard in primes

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  • RayLeonard82
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    #51
    Originally posted by Nightelf
    Sugar Ray Leonard Brutally Knocks out chicken manny within 3 or 4 rounds.
    Ray couldnt knockout Akub Kalule in 3 rounds who was extremely slow so how is he going to knock Pac out in 3 rounds who is 10 times quicker than Kalule, southpaw also and hits much harder. Ray got hit a lot in that Kalule fight and he was slow. Makes me wonder if Kalule had Pac's speed what could have happened.



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    • BennyST
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      #52
      Originally posted by miron_lang
      *p4p premise


      If Pac lands the left early. It would be a massacre and a TKO for Pacquiao. If later. late TKO in a very close fight.


      Imagine a 5'9 74" reach Pacquiao. with the chin p4p speed and power.

      IF the tiny Pacquiao is kayoing a Miguel Cotto type. A natural welter Pacquiao wil KO Michael Spinks
      That sounds exactly like Hearns. Pac has been knocked out as many times as Hearns has already and Hearns went up to CW. That's a lot more weight than Pac has moved up. His chin is good but it's not as good as Leonard's and not even a great chin either. He's been knocked down, hurt, stopped numerous times and I'm not saying this to be a **** but none of that stuff happened to Leonard, and now Pac stops him early in a 'massacre'?

      Hearns couldn't stop Leonard and in all reality, Hearns hits harder P4P than Pac and is just as fast.

      Do you not agree that Pac would have a real hard time with Leonard's style in general? P4P that is, not at WW.

      Hearns was brutalising natural CW's. Guys fighting all their career at 200 pounds, but the difference was they had never been stopped. Cotto had been stopped badly and hurt a lot. He still couldn't do Leonard in. What makes you think Pac would blast him out without any trouble?

      Oh **** it, this is too much. It's beyond my comprehension to understand this.

      It's not as if Pac is knocking dudes out that haven't been knocked out before. Nor is he killing them. Apart from Hatton, who has it looked like he's killed? Go watch Hearns hit Duran. A guy that never got stopped before or after and who was nearly impossible to hit flush let along hurt.

      Pac isn't some super powered monster. He does have great power but it isn't really what you would call Jackson/Hearns-esque power. His comes from speed as much as anything. Even when he does hit guys flush often they don't go down for the count (guys with chins, not Hatton or Cotto). It more often than not takes a prolonged beating for Pac to get guys out of there. Hearns had shocking one punch power. When he hit you, you went down and didn't get back up. Good night. He hit Leonard and Leonard didn't go down. Pac would not stop Leonard.
      Last edited by BennyST; 12-17-2009, 03:49 AM.

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      • RayLeonard82
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        #53
        I will say this. Pac is much more dangerous than Wilfred Benitez and Ray struggled in that fight. Benitez was a very good defensive fighter but his offensive attack is no where close to Pac.

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        • miron_lang
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          #54
          Originally posted by BennyST
          Nah man. It might be close, and Pac might even win, though I very much doubt it, but, Leonard is not getting stopped. No way.

          What in his career makes you think Leonard was stoppable? When did he get hurt badly by a shot? When has he been knocked down and struggled to make it up? Even against one of the hardest P4P punchers ever, who would be a harder guy to fight than Pac, he wasn't hurt. He took monstrous shots and kept coming.
          Bro Lalonde and Hearns dropped him and he lost the 2nd fight with Hearns. These 2 guys doesnt have the workrate of Pac. Pac is a savage finisher.


          Originally posted by BennyST
          People severely underestimate how tough Leonard was and what a huge heart he had. They think because he boxed and was pretty that he was not tough. You would struggle to find someone tougher, not named Ali, than Leonard. The guy was a beast in every way.

          You might think Pac beats him but even P4P, there is just no way he would stop him. Uh Uh.

          Hearns couldn't x 2, Duran couldn't, Hagler couldn't etc etc. It was only by the time he was 40 something and hadn't fought in however long that he was stopped. Pac wouldn't stop Leonard. He wouldn't beat him P4P either in fact. Bad style match up.
          I dont underestimate Leonard in fact he's my 1st boxing Hero. He's my father's favorite fighter. But Pacquiao is a special fighter also with a MASSIVE left hand. Duran beat him. A legit Welter Pac can also do it also. Yeah maybe i wont bet on a stoppage againts a prime leonard.
          Last edited by miron_lang; 12-17-2009, 04:09 AM.

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          • miron_lang
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            #55
            Originally posted by BennyST
            Pac would not stop Leonard.

            Yeah Hearns might hit harder than Pacquiao but But potentially can land 4X more.


            "Pac would not stop Leonard." Fine i think i can agree with that. unless we see some shocking details from Pacquiao the rest of his career.

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            • Silencers
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              #56
              I like Pacquiao and all but Leonard stops him.

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              • kadyo's
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                #57
                Too ad this isn't happening so nobody among would ever be orret no matter how convinced you are with your agreement.

                Pac is fighting mayweather and in that one many will be victorious with their predictions and many will eat crows. I say pac by a KO.

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                • RightCross94
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by miron_lang
                  Bro Lalonde and Hearns dropped him and he lost the 2nd fight with Hearns. These 2 guys doesnt have the workrate of Pac. Pac is a savage finisher.




                  I dont underestimate Leonard in fact he's my 1st boxing Hero. He's my father's favorite fighter. But Pacquiao is a special fighter also with a MASSIVE left hand. Duran beat him. A legit Welter Pac can also do it also. Yeah maybe i wont bet on a stoppage againts a prime leonard.
                  Save us from the *******s!

                  He only found out who Leonard and Hearns were 5 seconds after seeing this thread he googled their names

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                  • miron_lang
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RightCross94
                    Save us from the *******s!

                    He only found out who Leonard and Hearns were 5 seconds after seeing this thread he googled their names
                    You idiot did you read the whole thread?

                    I have more boxing knowledge than you. im willing to bet real money on it.


                    I have a good memory I dont use google. You're here 6 months and you think you already know something? GTFOH you. noob

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                    • El Castigador
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                      #60
                      Anyone who think Pac aginst Sugar Ray Leonard should ne stoned to death..I mean my god..Pac fans are the dumbest.

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