Roy Jones was not taleneted...he was ATHLETIC.

[Mr. Philadel]

Roy Jones was NOT talented?!?...........I've heard it all now.....I'm out, yall have a good one!!.....Bless!!(walkin' away mumbling to self) "Roy Jones wasn't talented?!?"

[GlovesOfHaste]

Jordan was both talented and athletic..But when he got older, his talent was pulled down by lack of athleticsm. Same with RJJ.

[THE REED]

Wrong. He was talented and athletic.

That is just ridiculous.

By those standards we could give allen iverson boxing gloves and he could accomplish everything ROy Jones did in boxing.

Because hey all you need, is athletics to be a 4 weight class champion.

WTF.

[Sugar Jay]

Roy is 1 of my all time favs but i do think he was a bit overrated....sorry....just looking at the guys he fought, its nothing really special...

[elgaringo]

sorry to repeat myself, just I think I have a point lol.......

he had and still has boxing ability and a whole lot of talent! He just has one of them styles that when his BOXING skills started to wane (speed, reflexes, concentration) albeit with age, that you cant do at top level without great punch resistance! Plain and simple! frankly you've lost credibility if you had any to begin with that is lol. The best thing you could do is say you were hasty in your choice of words!

[BKM-]

Roy is 1 of my all time favs but i do think he was a bit overrated....sorry....just looking at the guys he fought, its nothing really special...

Beating atleast 2 legit ATG's is very good for any boxer.

[ThePunchingBag]

Jesus Christ...Im not a Roy Jones hater...I thought I was Roy Jones growing up...dont tell me Im a Jones hater...Im just making points that his style and what he used to beat people was pure athleticsm..he was a freak...it wasnt natural fundementally sound boxing talent.

This guy is a joke.

He thinks it applies to Roy Jones, but not Paul Williams.

[THE REED]

Having the athletics to slip a punch, and having the knowledge of WHEN to do it is another.

Having the athletics to successfully counterpunch is one thing.. having the talent and knowledge to actually carry it out is another.

When Roy Jones TKOd Virgil Hill with a body shot, he set that up.. he kept going over the top with the right hand, then he eventually feinted over the top and went underneath and broke his rib.

Athletics doesn't carry that out... knowledge does.

You can't JUST be a great athlete, and beat the fighters Roy did.

Counterpunching is more about timing then it is having athletic ability, and Roy was a great counterpuncher.

Keeping Ruiz at bay with a fast stiff jab was about timing.

His athletics helped him to carry out his talent.

You don't start boxing when you are 10 years old and have no talent in the sport, that is absurd.

[El Castigador]

Having the athletics to slip a punch, and having the knowledge of WHEN to do it is another.

Having the athletics to successfully counterpunch is one thing.. having the talent and knowledge to actually carry it out is another.

When Roy Jones TKOd Virgil Hill with a body shot, he set that up.. he kept going over the top with the right hand, then he eventually feinted over the top and went underneath and broke his rib.

Athletics doesn't carry that out... knowledge does.

You can't JUST be a great athlete, and beat the fighters Roy did.

Counterpunching is more about timing then it is having athletic ability, and Roy was a great counterpuncher.

Keeping Ruiz at bay with a fast stiff jab was about timing.

His athletics helped him to carry out his talent.

You don't start boxing when you are 10 years old and have no talent in the sport, that is absurd.

I never said you go get Randy Moss and throw boxing gloves on him and you have a champion.

Im talking about what Roy got by on his career.....he used his athletiscm..I mean hell he even said it.

THIS IS NOT A HATE THREAD...im on record saying NO ONE in hsitory would beat Roy one oon one in his prime...

Im not knocking him..Im saying he was bigger...stronger and faster then everyuone with INSANE relexes.
When he lost his speed and power..he had nothing to fall back on.

[elgaringo]

I never said you go get Randy Moss and throw boxing gloves on him and you have a champion.

Im talking about what Roy got by on his career.....he used his athletiscm..I mean hell he even said it.

THIS IS NOT A HATE THREAD...im on record saying NO ONE in hsitory would beat Roy one oon one in his prime...

Im not knocking him..Im saying he was bigger...stronger and faster then everyuone with INSANE relexes.
When he lost his speed and power..he had nothing to fall back on.

He didnt have the chin to fall back on! maybe he had a great chin in his prime, we'll never know but the fact is he had the ability to stop anyone testing it!