Pac lost to Erik because...

[Easy-E]

Old topic...as usual Easy-E is very biased................here's an unbiased scorecards.


Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com - 114-114 Draw
http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer031708.asp

Brad Cooney of Cooney Entertainment - Draw

http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=95526

Harold Lederman of HBO (not his article but mentioned in it) - 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...beats-marquez/

Dan Rafael of espn.com – 114-113 for Marquez

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=3296049

Steve Kim of maxboxing.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim031708.asp

The Arizona Republic – 114-113 for Marquez

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...*****0317.html

Jeff Haney of Las Vegas Sun - 114-113 for Pacquiao
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...ng-title-bout/

Ricardo Lois of ******************.com – 115-112 for Marquez
http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4125

Michael Marley of ******************.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao
http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4132

SC of badlefthook.com – 114-113 for Marquez

http://www.badlefthook.com/story/2008/3/16/463/75851

Ace Freeman of fightfan.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao

http://fightfan.com/?p=101

Victor Perea of *********.com - 115-113 for Marquez
http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...ao-marquez.htm

‘Undisputed’ of doghouseboxing.com – 115-114 for Pacquiao

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Round031508.htm

Bart Barry of 15rounds.com – 115-113 for Marquez
http://15rounds.com/Columns/bbarry/aggressor-031708.php

Ben Thompson of fighthype.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content2220.html

Tim Starks of mvn - 114-113 for Marquez
http://mvn.com/boxing/2008/03/17/the...anny-pacquiao/

Aaron Jones of *********.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.*********.com/article_detail.php?AT=603

In case you couldnt figure it out, my post was in response to Lady Fan saying that everyone scored it a close fight for Manny. I am aware that people in Press row scored the fight for Manny, but the majority of press row had JMM winning.

[ummmid]

Old topic...as usual Easy-E is very biased................here's an unbiased scorecards.


Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com - 114-114 Draw
http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer031708.asp

Brad Cooney of Cooney Entertainment - Draw

http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=95526

Harold Lederman of HBO (not his article but mentioned in it) - 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...beats-marquez/

Dan Rafael of espn.com – 114-113 for Marquez

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=3296049

Steve Kim of maxboxing.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim031708.asp

The Arizona Republic – 114-113 for Marquez

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...*****0317.html

Jeff Haney of Las Vegas Sun - 114-113 for Pacquiao
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...ng-title-bout/

Ricardo Lois of ******************.com – 115-112 for Marquez
http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4125

Michael Marley of ******************.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao
http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4132

SC of badlefthook.com – 114-113 for Marquez

http://www.badlefthook.com/story/2008/3/16/463/75851

Ace Freeman of fightfan.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao

http://fightfan.com/?p=101

Victor Perea of *********.com - 115-113 for Marquez
http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...ao-marquez.htm

‘Undisputed’ of doghouseboxing.com – 115-114 for Pacquiao

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Round031508.htm

Bart Barry of 15rounds.com – 115-113 for Marquez
http://15rounds.com/Columns/bbarry/aggressor-031708.php

Ben Thompson of fighthype.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content2220.html

Tim Starks of mvn - 114-113 for Marquez
http://mvn.com/boxing/2008/03/17/the...anny-pacquiao/

Aaron Jones of *********.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.*********.com/article_detail.php?AT=603

you're biased. we all know only the scorecards that say marquez won the fight matters, they even had some filipinos/sri lankan agreeing with them so it must be accurate.

[Foodie One]

In case you couldnt figure it out, my post was in response to Lady Fan saying that everyone scored it a close fight for Manny. I am aware that people in Press row scored the fight for Manny, but the majority of press row had JMM winning.

All of those scores you presented are subjective. The scores that actually count are the official judges at ringside. If you were to poll viewers of the second fight, most would vote in favor of a Pacman victory due to the knockdown early in the fight plus the wobbling Marquez received in the 10th round. Marquez was unable to show any kind of "DOMINANCE" over the Pacman thus losing in a closely contested battle. JAT

[Chups]

you're biased. we all know only the scorecards that say marquez won the fight matters, they even had some filipinos/sri lankan agreeing with them so it must be accurate.

Very True. I shouldn't have posted the scores that favored Pac.

[Easy-E]

All of those scores you presented are subjective. The scores that actually count are the official judges at ringside. If you were to poll viewers of the second fight, most would vote in favor of a Pacman victory due to the knockdown early in the fight plus the wobbling Marquez received in the 10th round. Marquez was unable to show any kind of "DOMINANCE" over the Pacman thus losing in a closely contested battle. JAT

Talk about subjective.

You claimed that "everyone had the fight close but in favor of Pac."
I provided evidence that this is inaccurate. The majority of press row scored the fight for Marquez, and one judge did too. I provided factual evidence

You then make a claim completly void of evidence or fact saying that if viewers were polled that this would happen... With absolutly no evidence.

I never made any comments about dominance, as they were both close fights that neither fighter proved dominant.

[Chups]

where is Victor nowadays? i miss talkin boxing with that dude

Yeah I met the guy....he's cool. He's not active in Pacland anymore.

[Easy-E]

you're biased. we all know only the scorecards that say marquez won the fight matters, they even had some filipinos/sri lankan agreeing with them so it must be accurate.

did I ever say that? no.
did I ever imply that? no.
I posted those cards in response to a poster claiming that everyone had the fight scored for Pac.
When you dont read posts and make comments, it makes you look both ignorant and ******.

[lacson]

Why are people even discussing this. Obviously Manny wasn't at his prime. His latest performance seems to be always better than his last, so far his prime is now but then again we don't know until after the Mayweather fight. Will he be better than his last fight again? We won't know his prime until he starts going down hill.

Regarding the first Morales fight, the head butt occurred in the fifth which was ruled a punch by Cortez. Manny himself said, he couldn't see well out of that right eye and was eating Morales' lefts. But even with that it was a close fight, one round diff, while others thought Manny did enough to win. Anyways prime means when a fighter is at the top of his game, his best. For Manny that is now.

By the way Mayweather is Pacquiao's secret number one fan, you want to see proof, watch Pac Morales 2, especially the 10th round. Mayweather was the only crazed fan, jumping up and down on his seat, he gets more excited than Wahlberg for crying out loud.

[pasawayako]

..atleast what i say are FACTS..not one ****sexual comment about floyd threads day after day..why dont u complain about that..the world NEEDS to know that pacquiao is an overated clown and i will tell them JUST THAT..

and pac lost to erik cause erik is the better fighter with a MUCH better resume

LOL....

[YoungReezy]

Why are people even discussing this. Obviously Manny wasn't at his prime. His latest performance seems to be always better than his last, so far his prime is now but then again we don't know until after the Mayweather fight. Will he be better than his last fight again? We won't know his prime until he starts going down hill.

Regarding the first Morales fight, the head butt occurred in the fifth which was ruled a punch by Cortez. Manny himself said, he couldn't see well out of that right eye and was eating Morales' lefts. But even with that it was a close fight, one round diff, while others thought Manny did enough to win. Anyways prime means when a fighter is at the top of his game, his best. For Manny that is now.

By the way Mayweather is Pacquiao's secret number one fan, you want to see proof, watch Pac Morales 2, especially the 10th round. Mayweather was the only crazed fan, jumping up and down on his seat, he gets more excited than Wahlberg for crying out loud.

Dude I don't know, Pac didn't look too fast against Cotto, but ****, even a slow Pac is still a very fast Pac. I persona;;y think his hands are faster than Floyds when he throws combos, Floyd potshots quick though.