"real" manny and floyd fans..who wins and how..lets talk boxing

[johncods]

I got pac by UD or TKO.. If floyd potshots he won't win.. He would have to move out of his comfort zone and throw more punches to keep up with pac.. pac should use alot of feints and throw 3 or 4 punch combos and get out and I can see floyd covering up all night..

Everybody says that marquez handled pac floyd will absolutely own him not really floyd catches guys with one shot and relies on timing yes it is very effective but he has never seen the awkwardness and speed of pac. If floyd misses those 1 shot counters pac can get off 3 punches while floyd goes to his shell, Marquez fired counters in combination while pac fired his thus catching pac.. Floyd is a different type of counter puncher where he usually throws one shot while the guy is coming in now i'm not gonna say that won't be effective but that's gonna be tough against a guy who has great footspeed and awkward rhythm..

[-MAKAVELLI-]

does fighting a weight drained oscar.and a shot cotto and hatton get you ready for floyd????lets talk boxing

lets talk boxing then


you act like Cotto was 178yrs old and still wasn't a legit welterweight


just on activity alone, PAC has the edge....Floyd wants to come back and fight someone with that kind of handspeed? really?

you think he'll handle it, i dont...he's fighting an elite...from a 2 year layoff to having to increase his punch output to keep PAC honest, i think he has a ***** of a time


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[cortdawg25]

as long as pac is not wreckless and uses his natural strengths smartly against floyd then i dont see what floyd can do. controlled agression whith speed and movement quck bursts when floyds in position, floyd wont be able to do ****.

how do u suppose Pacquiao is gonna be able to get in position to land them big lefts. Is he gonna use a jab...he doesn't have one and he don;t got the reach.

It's gonna be a easy fight for Floyd. Floyd gon jab the hell out of him,head to body, then turn his jab into hooks from the body to the head. He gon control the distance and range and turn it up around the 8th with lead right hands and power shots to get manny out of there

Easy fight!

[S A M U R A I]

pacquiao.

by sd win in a close fight or by ko/tko.

Same for me.

BTW, all this stuff about Manny being matched up with a one style of opponent for his entire career is complete bollocks. Look closely and you'll see he fought and defeated a good number of different styles.



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[S A M U R A I]

how do u suppose Pacquiao is gonna be able to get in position to land them big lefts. Is he gonna use a jab...he doesn't have one and he don;t got the reach.

Footwork...



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[cortdawg25]

I think that either fighter can win. If Manny is as accurate as he always is, can come in with those weird angles and is able to find Floyd throughout the night, it's game over for Floyd.

If Floyd's genius defense is enough to stop Manny from landing, it's game over for Manny.

Really, they both have the exact styles and amazing tools that can cause the other guy problems, it's all a matter of who is better at it.

I won't choose a winner or a round or anything till closer to fight night, and even then it's a toss up. The one thing I am curious about is if Mayweather comes in overweight again.

he whatn't overweight the last fight. They fought at 147 and he weighed 146. That catchweight ain't the real weight!

[Nuurzhaelan]

I do not think that Manny will be KOd by Floyd, but I do think Floyd has a very good chance of winning on points.

[bojangles1987]

manny fans why will manny win and how

floyd fans how will floyd win and how??


my take..........i think manny showed in the cotto and jmm fight that he doesnt like movement..hell in the cotto fight he str8 up got frustrated...i think he's been matched with a certain style his entire career and in this fight that will be exposed..floyds fought every style there is....if he was frustrated with cotto's movement...floyd might make him pull some hair out of his head...floyd will use angles and distance and cut mannys workrate in half..manny will give floyd trouble in the first 4 rounds imo with his speed and southpaw stance..but i think once floyd times him and gets his rhytmn him left hooks and lead rights will bust manny up..i see floyd winning maybe 8-4 ud or late stoppage


thoughts??no trolling. please red k anyone who trolls

I don't think Pac was frustrated because of Cotto's movement, I think it was more frustration that the ref wasn't stopping it when Cotto was clearly beat up and non competitive. Besides, Pac was still winning easily every round that Cotto ran in.

Floyd's ability to counter punch while moving backwards will serve him very well, and he is incredibly fast obviously. However, Floyd will have to keep himself from a tendency he has to lay on the ropes, something he does too much. If Pac gets Mayweather in the corner, which he certainly will get the opportunity too, he will tee off and the unorthodox offense he brings in will catch Mayweather off guard.

Mayweather's ability to adapt to his opponent may be a little overstated for this fight as Pac has a predictable style, but it doesn't matter since the angles he throws punches at are unpredictable. Even if Floyd knows what Pac is going to throw, he may not be able to ever predict where it is coming from.

I see Floyd trying to just run and pot shot for the majority of the fight, having some success, but falling behind early. Sometime around the eighth Floyd will realize he can't throw single shots and start letting his hands go, and it won't surprise me if he starts to take over late in the fight, but Pac is a stamina freak and will be there throwing the whole time. If Floyd can throw the big combos while not getting ****** into a brawl and how soon he realizes he has to will determine who wins a close fight.

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i think this will be roach's gameplanning vs. floyd's in fight adjustments

roach needs to come up with at least 2 gameplans and an emergency "nothing is working" game plan.

i don't like floyd but i don't think he's ****** in the ring. he knows how to adjust.

I gave it a very good thought too. Mayweather loses rounds to figure you out. The best way to go against that is to change your fight after the first four. At that point Floyd cannot afford any more rounds off to time you / learn you. That's when the fight starts.

One thing I never figured out in the most recent Manny fights is why didn't anyone impose his size "the old way" yanking pulling leaning on him etc... Did they all seriously think "me big, me KO little Pacman?" That could be a good backup plan for Mayweather: fight à la Hopkins.

I think this fight will be good because it will change through the fight

[Left Hook Tua]

great post...floyd cant just leap in with his leaft hook against manny imo mannys to quick..he'll have to hook off of the jab or work it in off of another combo

the long jab and lead rights is key. i don't think floyd should throw his leaping left hook. it'll be too dangerous with a guy with manny's handspeed.

floyd's jab to the body might have to be used sparingly as well. he can be effective with it against manny because manny has shorter reach but don't use it too much because it'll leave him vulnerable to a counter right hook.

plus floyd should fight tall. throwing his jabs to the body is a great punch but he'll be coming down to manny's level. he should use that 2 inch. height advantage and make pacquiao reach.

if pacquiao can't effectively counter the lead right and jab of floyd's he's gonna get beat down. khan will be good preparation for that though. he's fast and very long like floyd.